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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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Gene Kelly dipped his dancing toes into prog when he featured on ELO's Xanadu soundtrack album. Smile

Oh, God, what a train wreck of an album. Dead
In that case, you may be surprised to hear that Xanadu is my second favourite ELO album. Smile

why am I not surprised? LOL
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^ .....And just in case you were wondering, Out of the Blue is my favourite ELO album. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Gene Kelly dipped his dancing toes into prog when he featured on ELO's Xanadu soundtrack album. Smile

Oh, God, what a train wreck of an album. Dead
In that case, you may be surprised to hear that Xanadu is my second favourite ELO album. Smile

why am I not surprised? LOL
LOL rof!
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^ Maybe I'll run a Top 7 ELO albums poll, although I have a bad feeling the Xanadu album won't do well in the poll. Smile
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ That could stir up a whole new Bitches Brew if you suggest Miles Davis' Kind of Blue was the first prog album. Wink 

From Jan 27, 2011:
"Kind of Blue was, and still is, for me the finest jazz album I've ever heard. Probably cuz I'm a melody guy, a romantic, and a laid back late night music listener. For me this is without question or hesitation a five star album. Whether or not it belongs in the ProgArchives database is another issue . . . ."
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Touché, Doc! Yet, even then, I was questioning "whether or not [Kind of Blue] belongs" on PA.

And, yes, Miles is known for his extreme obsession with trying to stay hip, stay young, stay current, stay relevant, so even his early stuff was probably progressive as well as eclectic. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ That could stir up a whole new Bitches Brew if you suggest Miles Davis' Kind of Blue was the first prog album. Wink

From Jan 27, 2011:
"Kind of Blue was, and still is, for me the finest jazz album I've ever heard. Probably cuz I'm a melody guy, a romantic, and a laid back late night music listener. For me this is without question or hesitation a five star album. Whether or not it belongs in the ProgArchives database is another issue . . . ."
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I'm a Jazz lover too, and I'm proud to say Miles Davis' Kind of Blue has a treasured place in my CD collection. Smile
The point was that was a review by Bruford Freak....calling it jazz.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Maybe I'll run a Top 7 ELO albums poll, although I have a bad feeling the Xanadu album won't do well in the poll. Smile
You're probably right on that account but it would make a good poll. I' d like to see if Eldorado or Out Of The Blue would top A New World Record.
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In the early 70s I used to think that Barry White was very progressive... But maybe for other reasons Embarrassed
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Maybe I'll run a Top 7 ELO albums poll, although I have a bad feeling the Xanadu album won't do well in the poll. Smile
You're probably right on that account but it would make a good poll. I' d like to see if Eldorado or Out Of The Blue would top A New World Record.

I listened to A New World Record back in early high school, I was listening to mostly metal bands then but I loved it instantly, remaining one of my favorite albums ever since. Big smile
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In the early 70s I used to think that Barry White was very progressive... But maybe for other reasons Embarrassed
Absolutely. I owe Barry a few for putting a few girls in the mood. Along with some alcohol.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Maybe I'll run a Top 7 ELO albums poll, although I have a bad feeling the Xanadu album won't do well in the poll. Smile
You're probably right on that account but it would make a good poll. I' d like to see if Eldorado or Out Of The Blue would top A New World Record.

I listened to A New World Record back in early high school, I was listening to mostly metal bands then but I loved it instantly, remaining one of my favorite albums ever since. Big smile
Yeah, great album. Haven't listened to it in a long time.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Maybe I'll run a Top 7 ELO albums poll, although I have a bad feeling the Xanadu album won't do well in the poll. Smile
You're probably right on that account but it would make a good poll. I' d like to see if Eldorado or Out Of The Blue would top A New World Record.

I listened to A New World Record back in early high school, I was listening to mostly metal bands then but I loved it instantly, remaining one of my favorite albums ever since. Big smile
Yeah, great album. Haven't listened to it in a long time.

me neither, I need to make time for a listen. Tongue
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ That could stir up a whole new Bitches Brew if you suggest Miles Davis' Kind of Blue was the first prog album. Wink

From Jan 27, 2011:
"Kind of Blue was, and still is, for me the finest jazz album I've ever heard. Probably cuz I'm a melody guy, a romantic, and a laid back late night music listener. For me this is without question or hesitation a five star album. Whether or not it belongs in the ProgArchives database is another issue . . . ."
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I'm a Jazz lover too, and I'm proud to say Miles Davis' Kind of Blue has a treasured place in my CD collection. Smile
The point was that was a review by Bruford Freak....calling it jazz.
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yeah, a four letter word to some. Don't know why but I am not versed in the genre.
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Originally posted by Spaciousmind Spaciousmind wrote:

In the early 70s I used to think that Barry White was very progressive... But maybe for other reasons Embarrassed
 
Barry White's baby-makin' music could be considered progressive if you're hoping to make progress in the bedroom with some deep & soulful  Lurve. Heart
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Spaciousmind Spaciousmind wrote:

In the early 70s I used to think that Barry White was very progressive... But maybe for other reasons Embarrassed
 
Barry White's baby-makin' music could be considered progressive if you're hoping to make progress in the bedroom with some deep & soulful  Lurve. Heart

Yep, well that used to be the foremost thing on your mind back then lol... what better than Barry White.
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For me Itīs impossible to define which was the first progressive rock album, rock as a genre its always on the move, the influence of jazz, blues, classical music began to be felt strongly in the mid 60īs.

Musicianīs committed to their art without any prejudice and preconception, allowed break the barriers of the rock genre.

1969 - King Crimson - ITCOCK (I consider it properly Prog rock)
1969 - Touch - Touch (I consider it properly Prog Rock)
1969 - East Of Eden - Mercator (I consider it properly Prog Rock)
1969 - Family - Family Entertainment (I consider it properly Prog Rock)
1969 - Moody Blues - On the Threshold of a Dream (symphonic Rock)
1969 - Moody Blues - To Our Childrenīs Children (symphnic rock)
1969 - Miles Davis - In A Silent Way (jazz meets Rock)
1969 - Frank Zappa -Hot Rats (Rock meets Jazz)
1969 - Beatles - Abbey Road (I consider it properly Prog Rock)
1969 - Procol Harum - A Salty Dog
1969 - Jethro Tull - Stand Up (blues, proto prog and folk)
1969 - Arzachel - Arzachel (Canterbury)
1969 - Soft Machine - Soft Machine 2 (Canterbury)
1969 - Can - Monster Movie (Krautrock)
1969 - Yes - Yes
1969 - Genesis - From Genesis To Revelation
1969 - Kevin Ayers - Joy Of A Toy (Canterbury)
1969 - Colosseum - Valentyne Suite (I consider it properly Prog Rock)
1969 - Pink Floyd - Ummagumma
1969 - Van Der Graaf Generator - The Aerosol Grey Machine (totally Psych Rock)
1969 - Wigham - Hard NīHorny
1969 - Moondog - Moondog
1969 - Fairport Convention - Liege & Lief
1969 - Third Ear Band - Alchemy
1969 - Skin Alley - Skin Alley
1969 - Circus - Circus (Mel Collins!)
1969 - Arcadium - Breathe Awhile
1969 - Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei (Kraut)
1969 - Audience - Audience
1969 - Burnin Red Ivanhoe - m144
1969 - Renaissance - Renaissance
1969 - Steamhammer - Steamhammer
1969 - Steamhammer - MK2
1969 - The Nice - Nice (proto prog - Keith Emerson)
1969 - Strawbs - Strawbs (proto prog - folk) 
1969 - Nucleus - Nucleus (canadian prot prog psych)
1969 - The who - Tommy
1969 - High Tide - Sea Shanties (hard rock with violin!!)
1969 - Frank Zappa and the Mother - Uncle Meat (A piece of genious)

1968

1968 - Soft Machine - Soft Machine (Canterbury)
1968 - Caravan - Caravan (Canterbury)
1968 - Family - Music In A Dollīs House (I consider it properly Prog Rock)
1968 - The Left Banke - Too (baroque pop, not prog rock but really really beautiful)
1968 - The Beatles - White Album (avant gard, psych, experimental)
1968 - The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
1968 - The Pretty Things - S.F.Sorrow (first conceptual album ever ?)
1968 - Silver Apples -Silver Apples (analog portishead!!)
1968 - Frank Zappa &The Mothers of Invention - We re only it For The Money 
1968 - The United State Of America - The United States Of America (experimental and lunatic rock, great!)
1968 - The Moody Blues - In search Of Lost Chord (symphonic Rock)
1968 - Procol Harum - Shine On Brightly
1968 - Jethro Tull - This Was
1968 - The Doors - Waiting for the Sun
1968 - Grafitti - Grafitti (great psych rock)
1968 - Giles, Giles and Fripp - The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles And Fripp
1968 - Listening - Listening
1968 - International Harvester - Sov Got Rose- Marie
1968 - Vanilla Fudge - Renaissance
1968 - Fairport Convention - Fairport Convention
1968 - The Nice - Ars Longa Vita Brevis

1967 - The Beatles - Sgt. Pepperīs Lonely Hearts Club Band
1967 - The Bealtes - Magical Mystery Tour
1967 - Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Absolutely Free
1967 - Pink Floyd - The Piper At The Gates of Dawn
1967 - The Doors - The Doors
1967 - Kaleidoscope - Tangerine Dream
1967 - The Left Banke - The Left Banke
1967 - The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experience?
1967 - Love - Forever Changes
1967 - The Beach Boys - Smiley Smle
1967 - The Moody Blues - Days Of The Future Passed 
1967 - The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico (hate them but nobody sounds like them, they are like Napalm death in 1968)

1966 - The Beatles - Revolver (firts loop ever!!)
1966 - The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (huge influence for many bands)
1966 - The Mothers of Invention - Freak Out!!! (huge influence for many bands)

1959 - Miles Davis - A Kind Of Blue (breaking barriers of jazz, a piece of genious)



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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

It is like the evolution of species. There is no real beginning; it is a process. Only we human beings have to pin a name on something in this process.

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There are many beginnings to Prog : (assuming that we agree on what's prog)


1- From a historic perspective, it could have started in the late 60's, it's a human interpretation.

2- From a subjective perspective, it started when you discover prog by your self.

3- It's a evolution process, it has new beginnings each decade



Finally it's a philosophical question. Are you idealistic, realistic or evolutionist. I don't think it's important to know the answer because we don't know, but it's fun to see how can debate on this forever...


Life is enjoying the moment and not trying to find the truth, but I must say that those questions are fun in a way, because you can see how people have different views. But those views are use to rethink my own views.

My boring answer would be King Crimson In the Court....
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Hildegard of Bingen (1098-1179) is the first big name composer in classical music. She was German and the Abbess of a Benedictine Convent in Germany.

Good old Hilde, marking her down on Postit note as being the first... Cool <---- that's to cover any black eyes!


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Originally posted by Spaciousmind Spaciousmind wrote:

Hildegard of Bingen (1098-1179) is the first big name composer in classical music. She was German and the Abbess of a Benedictine Convent in Germany.

Good old Hilde, marking her down on Postit note as being the first... Cool <---- that's to cover any black eyes!

One could also argue that Henry VIII was very progressive in minstrelsy. But it's nothing to lose you head over.






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