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    Posted: April 11 2022 at 15:04
Saw Van Halen: Breaking the Band yesterday on REEL t.v., and the guy portraying Eddie was so off (which isn't saying much as the actors they have playing band members in other shows are usually ridiculous). The saving grace was the excellent look-alike they had for Sammy Hagar.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

[QUOTE=The Dark Elf] apparently Sabbath were not happy when so many people were turning up to see the support band and not them Smile
That's not how I remember it. I vividly remember seeing VH open for Sabbath in 1978. It was cool to see this new and upcoming band, who already had a buzz about them after the first album. But those at the show were there for the legends, not the newbies, and Sabbath saw it and appreciated it. As for EVH, he no doubt had a king position as guitarist for many years. Too bad he let so much of the side junk (drugs, cigs, drama) work so much against him.


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Time for commemoration.

R.I.P. Eddie
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^ Absolutely, they'd been making music that way since they formed.   And of course when Eddie & Alex were kids they had no choice but to play as a guitar/drums duo, creating the heart of the band's sound.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Another fascinating thing about the band is that they'd record with one guitar, one bass, one drum-set, one vocal.   No rhythm overdubs: when Eddie would switch from rhythm to a solo in the studio, no second guitar track would be used.   This not only gave them a unique sound but it also meant their live sets were true to form and sounded like their records.   A rare thing in rock 'n roll.

BTW, Eddie would boil his guitar strings for 20 minutes in order to pre-stretch them and to add that 'rubbery', slinky sound he had.



that is an extrordinary information and very cool to know when one knows hove viable overdubbing even in the day of gluing tape was norm. Integrity in the recording booth, they did not havf to do it tha tway but they had the integrity to do it that way, and it sounds real and authentic doing so.
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Prog or not Eddie was one of the best if not the best guitarist I've ever heard ... RIP eddie dying the way you did is just sad. Cry
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He would boil them (sometimes) to pre-stretch them.     Any guitarist will tell you new strings are extremely unstable and will extend & contract without warning, especially when one whams and bends as much as Eddie did.   He was a guitarist's guitarist, and had many tricks including "tweaking" the whammie-bar while using the Floyd Rose system he helped pioneer because the thing would throw guitars out of tune with no more than a light breeze.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

BTW, Eddie would boil his guitar strings for 20 minutes in order to pre-stretch them and to add that 'rubbery', slinky sound he had.

I could be mistaken, but I think he only did that early on when he was finding the right gauge. Boiling strings is usually done to clean the strings of buildup after many hours of playing. Billy Sheehan does it a lot.

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Another fascinating thing about the band is that they'd record with one guitar, one bass, one drum-set, one vocal.   No rhythm overdubs: when Eddie would switch from rhythm to a solo in the studio, no second guitar track would be used.   This not only gave them a unique sound but it also meant their live sets were true to form and sounded like their records.   A rare thing in rock 'n roll.

BTW, Eddie would boil his guitar strings for 20 minutes in order to pre-stretch them and to add that 'rubbery', slinky sound he had.




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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

btw I love the so called 'crappy' synth solo in Jump.

I've loved that crappy synth solo since...1984! LOL

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I do wonder sometimes if this is a prog site LOL

When I saw who said it, I wasn't surprised. LOL
 


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

He had a quite a 'look' to go with his talent

btw I love the so called 'crappy' synth solo in Jump. I do wonder sometimes if this is a prog site LOL
It stopped being a prog site in 1990....LOL
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He had a quite a 'look' to go with his talent

btw I love the so called 'crappy' synth solo in Jump. I do wonder sometimes if this is a prog site LOL
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

There was a video on Facebook of his Saturday Night Live appearance from 40+ years ago.  He played guitar along with the house band.  I think that his wife-to-be Valerie Bertinelli was the host that night.  He was younger than I ever remember seeing him, so I assume that it was very early on in his career.

YouTube just has this picture and the sound, not the actual video.

I can't embed it, but you can watch the clip in full here:

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/musical-performance---eddie-van-halen/n9553
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^I saw that when it aired! It was February '87 and Valerie was indeed the host.


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There was a video on Facebook of his Saturday Night Live appearance from 40+ years ago.  He played guitar along with the house band.  I think that his wife-to-be Valerie Bertinelli was the host that night.  He was younger than I ever remember seeing him, so I assume that it was very early on in his career.

YouTube just has this picture and the sound, not the actual video.

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So gutted, saw VH support Sabbath on their first UK tour. Bought the first album on import. A few months later I saw them headline at the Rainbow. What a hard rock band. What a guitarist.
R.I.P. Eddie.
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