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    Posted: November 19 2020 at 08:40
Whos your favourite of these two gents/giants of prog.

Notes to compare: they sort of came into the prog circus about the same time, in the second wave of keyboard virtouses, in mid 70s. Dazzeld with a wide array of synths and keen mind to explore new synth and keyboard technology. Both went into famous prog units in the 70s Geoff joined Yes and Jobson joined Roxy Music, both become part of a collective of super musichians, as in U.K and Asia. Both use alot of synths. Jobson have an ace in hes arm by also being an accomplished violinist. But in this poll we mainly focus in their keybord/synth/piano work.

Both also plays in and around many constilations, all arround exellent players. But falls in the shadows of Wakeman, Emerson, Banks, Wright and Minnear
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As in, who would I rather have in a band? Eddie Jobson. He covers more ground with violin. Plus, I REALLY liked what he introduced to Jethro Tull. That lineup had potential, even if the sound is dated.

Not much of a problem though since both A and Drama are unmistakeably 1980-ish in sound.

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they are not in the same universe as Banks, Wakeman, Emerson, Vangelis, Moraz, Wright---pet peeve of mine but find the way Downes plays live Yes music frustrating to say the least--seems always to be lagging with no original spark added.
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Definitely Eddie Jobson. He's one of the most underrated prog musicians ever.
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Originally posted by VianaProghead VianaProghead wrote:

Definitely Eddie Jobson. He's one of the most underrated prog musicians ever.
he adds so much to the U.K sound he is both flamboyand and mystical at the same time, soundwise
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by VianaProghead VianaProghead wrote:

Definitely Eddie Jobson. He's one of the most underrated prog musicians ever.
he adds so much to the U.K sound he is both flamboyand and mystical at the same time, soundwise
 


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Your sense of history is revisionist at best. Downes' early claim to fame was as one-half of the Buggles, a pop outfit that made notice with their lightweight Video Killed the Radio Star in 1979. Jobson, a true prog "giant", came into his own at age 17, replacing Darryl Way in Curved Air in 1972. This was followed by stints in other bands, most notable Roxy Music where Jobson appeared on three albums from 1973 to 1976. The rest is truly history.
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Your sense of history is revisionist at best. Downes' early claim to fame was as one-half of the Buggles, a pop outfit that made notice with their lightweight Video Killed the Radio Star in 1979. Jobson, a true prog "giant", came into his own at age 17, replacing Darryl Way in Curved Air in 1972. This was followed by stints in other bands, most notable Roxy Music where Jobson appeared on three albums from 1973 to 1976. The rest is truly history.

Plus, Eddie was in Zappa's band for Studio Tan before U.K. (You can also see Eddie on the cover of the previous record Zoot Allures, but he didn't play on it!)
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Eddie only played on one track on Studio Tan, most of which was recorded in 1975 and released in 78 without Zappa's permission. Eddie does not appear on any studio albums by Zappa otherwise, though he did play in his mid-76 lineup, can be heard on Live in NY, and is on a couple posthumous albums, like Philly '76.
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Jobson by quite a distance. The best Downes work I liked was on Drama. Not too excited about anything else he did.
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Hey, you play with UK, Roxy Music, Zappa, Curved Air, Yes and Jethro Tull, you have quite the resume.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Hey, you play with UK, Roxy Music, Zappa, Curved Air, Yes and Jethro Tull, you have quite the resume.

Jobson, because of this. And he added something substantial to all of them.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Eddie only played on one track on Studio Tan, most of which was recorded in 1975 and released in 78 without Zappa's permission. Eddie does not appear on any studio albums by Zappa otherwise, though he did play in his mid-76 lineup, can be heard on Live in NY, and is on a couple posthumous albums, like Philly '76.

Yeah, because George Duke had left but came back, and there was the big mess with Läther and Warner wanting four more studio albums from Frank before they'd let him out of his contract. 

I recall an interview in Keyboard where Eddie related how he was onstage, but the light wasn't hitting his setup properly at the moment Frank gave him the famous "Zappa point" and Eddie had no choice but to launch into a solo while turning knobs on a synth he still getting to know (he didn't say which one it was).
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Eddie only played on one track on Studio Tan, most of which was recorded in 1975 and released in 78 without Zappa's permission. Eddie does not appear on any studio albums by Zappa otherwise, though he did play in his mid-76 lineup, can be heard on Live in NY, and is on a couple posthumous albums, like Philly '76.

Yeah, because George Duke had left but came back, and there was the big mess with Läther and Warner wanting four more studio albums from Frank before they'd let him out of his contract. 

I recall an interview in Keyboard where Eddie related how he was onstage, but the light wasn't hitting his setup properly at the moment Frank gave him the famous "Zappa point" and Eddie had no choice but to launch into a solo while turning knobs on a synth he still getting to know (he didn't say which one it was).

That version of RDNZL actually was already recorded with George, Ruth, Chester, and Tom in 1975, as was Greggary Peccary (most of which was written and recorded in demo form, and even toured, in 1972 with the Wazoo Orchestra). But yeah, it was meant for Läther in 76, and WB went all capitalistic, as is their wont.

That's a cool tidbit about Eddie and the synths. Duke was famously not really into the synths until Frank kind of made him explore them. That and singing, oddly enough. And then we had him singing INCA ROADS! I guess Frank usually knew his stuff.
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Jobson, because of UK!
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Jobson all day, son.

That first UK record is one of my favorite pieces of fusion!

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Eddie Jobson prestation in UK, on Jethro Tull's A album is impressive, not so much on his solo albums, still one of the most important musician from old school prog

Aswell apreciate Downes as a solid keybordist, but among my fav ones
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2020 at 19:38
Bit tough comparing Eddie Jobson to Geoff Downes. Downes is an especially talented keyboardist whose style perfectly suits Yes more so than Rick Wakeman. The failure of Yes to progress as a band with Downes there is purely because of the lack of new material they produce these days. Yes are no longer songwriters.
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