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Poll Question: Favorite Track?
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Originally posted by Neu!mann Neu!mann wrote:

Shoot, for a minute I thought "Another Record" meant I could vote for Foxtrot...
That's a good one.
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:


What you said is not wrong, despite their actual monetary success being way, way higher post-golden era. Rutherford is a very solid musician, though, despite not being Hackett on guitar or even close. He's extremely competent as a bass player and guitar player, I'd even argue a tad underrated and overlooked on bass because of his flexibility as a player!

Thanks, great reply!!  Mind you, I've long been a HUGE fan of Rutherford on the bass guitar, and put him on the same level as Squire, Lake etc.  

As a bassist and guitarist, I know that the skills don't always translate well.  Rutherford was competent on the 6 string, but no maestro, and I always thought the music of Genesis deserved that maestro in the guitarist chair.

I need to put on the headphones and listen to their later catalog more closely.  Cheers, Charles


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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:


What you said is not wrong, despite their actual monetary success being way, way higher post-golden era. Rutherford is a very solid musician, though, despite not being Hackett on guitar or even close. He's extremely competent as a bass player and guitar player, I'd even argue a tad underrated and overlooked on bass because of his flexibility as a player!

Thanks, great reply!!  Mind you, I've long been a HUGE fan of Rutherford on the bass guitar, and put him on the same level as Squire, Lake etc.  

As a bassist and guitarist, I know that the skills don't always translate well.  Rutherford was competent on the 6 string, but no maestro, and I always thought the music of Genesis deserved that maestro in the guitarist chair.

I need to put on the headphones and listen to their later catalog more closely.  Cheers, Charles

Again, we're similar! Also a guitar/bass player. I played guitar to start, then switched to bass semi professionally to gig and record for YEARS, came back to guitar, and it's like a toy it's so easy LOL!  Smile

Gonna throw on some Genesis with my coffee right now! Cool

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:


What you said is not wrong, despite their actual monetary success being way, way higher post-golden era. Rutherford is a very solid musician, though, despite not being Hackett on guitar or even close. He's extremely competent as a bass player and guitar player, I'd even argue a tad underrated and overlooked on bass because of his flexibility as a player!

Thanks, great reply!!  Mind you, I've long been a HUGE fan of Rutherford on the bass guitar, and put him on the same level as Squire, Lake etc.  

As a bassist and guitarist, I know that the skills don't always translate well.  Rutherford was competent on the 6 string, but no maestro, and I always thought the music of Genesis deserved that maestro in the guitarist chair.

I need to put on the headphones and listen to their later catalog more closely.  Cheers, Charles
 
Again, we're similar! Also a guitar/bass player. I played guitar to start, then switched to bass semi professionally to gig and record for YEARS, came back to guitar, and it's like a toy it's so easy LOL!  Smile

Gonna throw on some Genesis with my coffee right now! Cool

Wonderful!!  Do you ever play lead guitar licks on a bass guitar? 

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Dodo/Lurker gets my vote.

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Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

Dodo/Lurker gets my vote.

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The whole Ababcab album makes me go back to my Gabriel-era Genesis albums. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

Dodo/Lurker gets my vote.

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The whole Ababcab album makes me go back to my Gabriel-era Genesis albums. Smile

or to the 4 previous albums with Collins on vocals. 
No? Big smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by judahbenkenobi judahbenkenobi wrote:

Dodo/Lurker gets my vote.

No Reply at All makes me go

Who Dunnit? makes me go
 
The whole Ababcab album makes me go back to my Gabriel-era Genesis albums. Smile

or to the 4 previous albums with Collins on vocals. 
No? Big smile
Yes, especially A Trick of the Tail - my favourite Genesis album with Phil Collins on vocals. Thumbs Up
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