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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.
Your post is full of wrong information, but I'll just start with the worst. You say "Stalin and Mao were not Communists". What!?!?!
Lets move on to your second bit of misinformation. Fascist and socialist are not mutually exclusive terms and Hitler was both a fascist and a socialist. The official name for the Nazis was the National Socialist Workers Party.
Also, referring to your answer to Steve, LBJ is not in the dictionary.

I did my thesis on this exact subject in 1975! Finally , someone who has read history! The difference between a pundit/blogger/commentator and a historian is that the latter seeks out both or multiple sides of the issue , "Le pour et le contre" in French and then synthesizes (it is a prog site after all) into a factual, unbiased essay. Fascist and Socialist have been the 2 sides of the same coin for centuries and to think that in this "enlightened" 21st century, that we still have ONLY two vulgar failures to root for or against is another sign of our small pettiness in this 'Internet is my psychiatrist' age. To prove the point , the new twist is to play with labels , saying that this is not fascism and this is not communism! LABELS that only prove that the point is actually COMMON-ism , aka Same ole crapola since Eden. The amount of lying, deceit, omission, deception and misrepresentation online is monstrous. The only left wing and right wing that matters are on birds, it helps them fly.....


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From the British-American area I would pick several early Dylan songs, and a lot of songs from The Clash - Sandinista.

Left-wing rock was very dominant in Scandinavia in the 1970's. In Denmark the most famous band was probably Rde Mor (Red Mother). One of my favourites is this moving song to Salvador Allende:


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2020 at 19:26
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.
Your post is full of wrong information, but I'll just start with the worst. You say "Stalin and Mao were not Communists". What!?!?!
Lets move on to your second bit of misinformation. Fascist and socialist are not mutually exclusive terms and Hitler was both a fascist and a socialist. The official name for the Nazis was the National Socialist Workers Party.
Also, referring to your answer to Steve, LBJ is not in the dictionary.


I did my thesis on this exact subject in 1975! Finally , someone who has read history! The difference between a pundit/blogger/commentator and a historian is that the latter seeks out both or multiple sides of the issue , "Le pour et le contre" in French and then synthesizes (it is a prog site after all) into a factual, unbiased essay. Fascist and Socialist have been the 2 sides of the same coin for centuries and to think that in this "enlightened" 21st century, that we still have ONLY two vulgar failures to root for or against is another sign of our small pettiness in this 'Internet is my psychiatrist' age. To prove the point , the new twist is to play with labels , saying that this is not fascism and this is not communism! LABELS that only prove that the point is actually COMMON-ism , aka Same ole crapola since Eden. The amount of lying, deceit, omission, deception and misrepresentation online is monstrous. The only left wing and right wing that matters are on birds, it helps them fly.....


I believe it's safer to say that there is always an overlap of some ideologies with no black or white separations between what we deem to be left and right wing.

Edited by SteveG - December 02 2020 at 19:29
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I don't klnow about 'left wing'...but these two songs always resonated with me aboiut social justice and anti- war and right wing ideas... ...one in '69 when I graduated high school and the other when I was in college......




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Another fine one...


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nothing beats this:


and of course the songs of the German band Ton, Steine, Scherben (German for "Clay, Stones, Shards"). the names of two of their songs, "Keine Macht fr Niemand" ("No Power for No-one") and "Macht kaputt was euch kaputt macht" ("Break what breaks you") became left-wing slogans in Germany in the 70s







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If "The Logical Song" is left-wing song, then perhaps "Working Man" is too?
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^Neither are 'left wing' imo and many of the ones posted aren't what we would consider hard core 'left wing' either...but they were anti war and social commentary back then, ..I lived then...graduated high school and started colled in '69...I recall those days pretty well.

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You're not supposed to remember the 60s Doc
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^ Not sure anything Lynyrd Skynard does would be considered "left wing". ( Bird puns aside)

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Power to the people- John Lennon
The power of equality - Red Hot Chilipeppers
Fight the power - Public Enemy
The age of self - Robert Wyatt
Sci Finance(revisited) - Peter Hammill
Sun City Night life - Peter Hammill (anti apartheid song)
Big Money - Rush (to me it's left wing anyway because any song that calls out "big money" more or less is)
Don't kill the whale -Yes (how many right wing conservatives work for green peace?)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2020 at 14:13
Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

^ Not sure anything Lynyrd Skynard does would be considered "left wing". ( Bird puns aside)

Mostly for the pun plus the fact that people always call out for it at concerts. More of a joke than anything else. Left wing folks believe in freedom and right wingers just think they do. So it could be interpreted either way although it's very unlikely LS were left wing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2020 at 16:04
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

You're not supposed to remember the 60s Doc

I don't remember all of it....sadly it's much of the best bits I can't recall.
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Most songs by Midnight Oil.

Oh, and the obvious Part of The Union by The Strawbs.
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