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friso
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I'm guitarist and songwriter for the prog-related band Mother Bass. Find us at http://www.motherbass.com. I also enter stages throughout the Netherlands performing my poetry.
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Sean Trane
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Zappa, Rush, Tull & Floyd are definitely carrying the medals - though not necessarily in that order. I would add Supertramp with some heavy social commentary in their lyrics (both Davies & Hodgson) Of course Genesis' Selling England is one hell of a social statement as well. Edited by Sean Trane - December 12 2020 at 10:45 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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richardh
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just a whole bunch of Rush 80's songs , too many to list but anyway a few of my faves
Subdivisions Tom Sawyer Force Ten The Big Money |
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People singing about what they think is wrong with the world is a bit like lobbying the profoundly deaf to effect change.
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Heart of the Matter
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^^ "A Wonderful Day in a One-Way World" may be a good example on Peter's side. Even Genesis after Gabriel have some pearls, like "Blood On The Rooftops"
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Not to mention Genesis epics such as "Get 'em out by Friday!"
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Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging
Numerous Peter Gabriel solo tracks |
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Edited by SteveG - December 11 2020 at 12:40 |
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dr wu23
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You want social commentary....it doesn't get any better than this and Mr Harper has been commenting from the beginning...
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Heart of the Matter
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^^ Maybe we need new ways to say the things that matter? That was (and hopefully still is) a prime motivation for Prog. Cliches & repetition aren´t that enjoyable, that's for sure.
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^Well, maybe that's an indication that nothing's changed. It's still worthy when it's still relevant. If you're tired of it, guess we're all really to blame.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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I agree; it also doesn't help that something novel, innovative, and unique is done with the stances on war, famine, corruption, money, etc. It's always the same sh*t over and over, we get it, bands LOL . "THIS WORLD'S NOT FOR LIVING! IT'S FOR FIGHTING! AND FOR WARS!" Go sit down and have some tea, Jon, lol.
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cstack3
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Yes used to excel at this. "Don't Kill the Whale" is a prime example.
Jon's latest social commentary is powerful music and commentary, doesn't get better than this! Edited by cstack3 - December 07 2020 at 21:08 |
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I miss Jim's PA contributions...
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Actually, there is metaphor and allegory throughout The Court of the Crimson King, but the poem by Peter Sinfield is about Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II and his long antagonistic relationship with Popes Innocent III and Gregory IX, interspersed with allusions to Frederick's own writings regarding alchemy, religion and his acquaintance with Thomas Aquinas, along with other 14th century concerns. For instance, the line "The Gardener plants an evergreen whilst trampling on a flower" is a reference to St. Francis of Assisi, the "Little Flower" whose ideals of charity and poverty were trampled by the pope and the Church. If you've ever read Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose, the Spiritual Franciscans who advocated poverty as a Christlike ideal were supported by Emperor Frederick against the papal forces who were far more interested in the wealth and power of the Church in the 14th century.
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Heart of the Matter
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The lyrics of The Court Of The Crimson King seems to represent well several of the apects pointed out until now: it's metaphoric, establishing some sort of parallel between that elusive medieval society and ours, it's acid with criticism, but also omitting any political/revolutionary agenda, and it works as motivation for the huge dramatic scope of the music (with the help of mellotron, of course).
Playing now the advocate of the devil, I propose a counter-example: Genesis' "Visions of Angels" doesn't adress any social issue, does it? It's more about a romantic perception of nature, perhaps. |
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Tbh, the social commentaries themselves do little for me. I've heard it all before in various guises of folk and folk rock. What I do like about it is that it forces the artists to create music as dramatic and moving as the lyrics. Just look at the usual suspects like Epitaph from KC and New World from the Strawbs. Moving songs that were custom made for the mellotron.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Selling England by The Pound in general, Gentle Giant's Proclamation, Zappa in general, Captain Beefheart had ome very unique off the cuff commentary on social and political happenings.
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The Old Road is probably one of my favorite albums of all time.
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octopus-4
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What about Marillion? Clutching At Straws and Brave. Also the first solo by Fish has Big Wedge and Family Business
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