Prog that could pass as Christmas Music

cstack3 wrote: Dellinger wrote: Hamburger Concerto, from Focus. The choir near the end is supposed to tell a passage from a traditional dutch chirstmas song... Excellent suggestion, thank you Dellinger!  Finally, something new!! We go through this exercise EVERY Yuletide, and it's always Greg Lake & "I Believe in Bloody Father Christmas!!"

Well, it's not the first year I suggest that one, since I found out about the supposed origin of those choirs.

RaphaelT wrote: Holy Lamb - Yes Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.

I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?

Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Holy Lamb - Yes Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album. I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - December 18 2020 at 14:31

Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint. What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.

RaphaelT wrote: Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint. What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually. The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.

I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.

Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint. What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually. The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.  I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.

Not really "prog"... but it's in 15/16 !!

RaphaelT wrote: Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint. What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually. The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols.  I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself. Don't worry, many of the catholics mix Holy Trinity (God, Son of God, Holy Spirit) with Holy Family (Jesus (Son of God), Mary and Saint Joseph).  Well, in catholic tradition cathedrals were not just walls, but also earthly representation of Heaven, of Kingdom to Come. So I think the process of building of the said La Sagrada Familia church (it is not cathedral of Barcelona) can also be the metaphore of bringing the Heaven, the Kingdom to Come. This is also about Christmas because commemorating the first coming of Christ (in the past) in tradition it is also celebrating the future coming of the Christ (the Kingdom to Come).

Actually, I don't recall having heard the concept of the Holy Family before. As for the Cathedral thing, I got that impression about La Sagrada Familia because in the narration of the song itself they call it so, and haven't looked up so much about it otherwise (except for the pictures).

RaphaelT wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Dellinger wrote: RaphaelT wrote: Holy Lamb - Yes Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album. I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing? Holy Lamb was about the harmonic convergence which was the first global meditation and not about Christmas. My mistake, I was quoting extension written to Chris Hedges' book about Yes, written by polish journalist.