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    Posted: January 02 2021 at 11:22
I haven't listened to the entire album in years by skipping the trial section at the end, but it's still top shelf Floyd in my book. Your thoughts please.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2021 at 11:30
I agree. It might not be full blown prog but it's a great album. I haven't listened to it in a while either. I remember a few years ago one of the radio stations in my area played the whole thing in it's entirety and the listeners went crazy (in a good way) almost as if they never heard the whole thing before. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2021 at 11:38
It's in many ways more of a Roger Waters than a Pink Floyd project, but there is some astonishingly beautiful music on it. Not necessarily one of their most cohesive works though, but I wouldn't want to live without "Goodbye Blue Sky", "One of My Turms", "Nobody Home" or "Comfortably Numb".
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I'm not really that big into it, a solid rock record for sure, but I just don't think it stands up as one of their best works. I don't think it's very cohesive for one, you can really pick out the songs where the full band had contributions compared to the ones clearly penned entirely by Waters, and I just think so many other records have explored the themes of the wall better than the wall does. Most the songs are good, maybe a couple duds, but idk, just not one of my favorites. I do really like side 3 though.
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Itís top three Floyd for me, along with Wish You Were Here and Animals (which come first and second in my personal Pink pantheon).

The opening sequence of tracks on Side One is amazing. And the whole thing is better live. Ever since In The Flesh was released, Iíve barely listened to the original album, preferring the live incarnation.

Seeing and hearing the album performed as a laser show at the Space Needle in Seattle was one of the highlights of my visit to the US many moons ago.

I can totally understand why a lot of people (and, for that matter, a lot of Floyd fans) donít like it, and it does in many ways sound like it was a completely different band (a surrogate band?) playing it, compared to previous Floyd albums - but damn, itís a good album. I love it. ❤️

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2021 at 11:58
For me it is one of those albums that have a special place. When it came out, as adolescent, I was just starting to develop more consciously some musical preferences and The Wall was one of the most impressive things I had heard. Soon after I saw the film, which gave me an even bigger impression. Now, with some 40 years of distance, I still like it very much, but also recognize some lack of cohesiveness (not that that bothers me that much); there are more than just a few fantastic gems on it, which makes it even now a great listen. Isn't that a characteristic of something that we might call a masterpiece?
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Yeah, I think a lot of why I like it so much is because I came to it as I was coming of age, musically, and also at a time when I was feeling if not entirely nihilistic, very much alienated. When it was released, it passed me by. I was aware of it, but apart from ABitW, pt. 2, i wouldnít have been able to tell you anything more about it. I think itís lucky I didnít cotton on to it back then, as I donít think Iíd have anywhere near the appreciation or love for it that I do now.

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Middling album for Floyd.
A handful of good songs.
Nick Mason sleeps through most of it.
Richard Wright famously barely there.
Better than The Final Cut.
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Middling album for Floyd.
A handful of good songs.
Nick Mason sleeps through most of it.
Richard Wright famously barely there.
Better than The Final Cut.


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An absolute masterpiece in terms of ideas and their execution, musicality, expressivity, and pure emotion. Even if the listener is not absorbing the whole thing at once, he could enjoy just some individual songs. This is one of the very exceptional aspects about 'The Wall' - it works perfectly both as a continuous mammoth piece (and this is surely the way I like to listen to it) or as an album from which one can extract unbelievable songs which are at this point in time, unprecedented classics. And shall we mention the majestic movie that accompanied this achievement of rock music? With all this said, I must admit that I never understood the criticism towards 'The Wall', it is quite glorious and deserves all the praise it gets!
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As predicted, The Wall is another split decission album. It's a bit Waters for some with too little Wright. But C'est la vie. I like it for what it is, even though I think Waters extended his reach with this one.
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I adore it. While it's not one I often play now, it will always have a very special place in my heart. It is something of a sentimental fave. I was young, and my brother bought and played it for me soon after it was released (the artwork first caught my attention). Some complain of filler, but I would not be without one track off the album. I really appreciate it from beginning to end.
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It has some really good songs but a lot of mediocre stuff also....I could never sit through all of it at one time...
and mostly played the Numb side.
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Iíve never understood the filler argument, either. Thereís nothing Iíd lose.
Same for Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. Thereís not a single track I would wish to lose.
Itís also always the second disc that people complain of filler, Iíve noticed, on any double album. To me, this is more indicative of listener fatigue, than any real presence of filler. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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The Wall has always felt like Roger Waters and company, rather than a raw PF record.

Still solid music but not a go-to for me.



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Massively important album for me as I left my teens and entered adulthood. Didn't listen to anything else around 1980-81 at all. Then became a bit bored of it . The biggest problem fore me is the flat production although admittedly this is a feature of most Floyd albums.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2021 at 08:01
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Massively important album for me as I left my teens and entered adulthood. Didn't listen to anything else around 1980-81 at all. Then became a bit bored of it . The biggest problem fore me is the flat production although admittedly this is a feature of most Floyd albums.
Flat production? It's perfect for what it was intended for. Producer Bob Ezrin had to move between sounding like a live band recording and studio work without sonically clashing and did a great job, imho.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Massively important album for me as I left my teens and entered adulthood. Didn't listen to anything else around 1980-81 at all. Then became a bit bored of it . The biggest problem fore me is the flat production although admittedly this is a feature of most Floyd albums.
Flat production? It's perfect for what it was intended for. Producer Bob Ezrin had to move between sounding like a live band recording and studio work without sonically clashing and did a great job, imho.

Yes, "flat production that is a feature most Floyd albums". Because Dark Side of the Moon is a gold standard and most emulated and revered album for flat production. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Anyway, I think The Wall works best when David Gilmour is fully engaged, hence songs like "The Thin Ice", "Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2", "Mother", "Goodbye Blue Sky", "Young Lust, "Hey You", "Comfortably Numb" and "Run Like Hell", all of which Gilmour has writing credits, and basically the best and most memorable parts of the album.


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An absolute masterpiece in terms of ideas and their execution, musicality, expressivity, and pure emotion. Even if the listener is not absorbing the whole thing at once, he could enjoy just some individual songs. This is one of the very exceptional aspects about 'The Wall' - it works perfectly both as a continuous mammoth piece (and this is surely the way I like to listen to it) or as an album from which one can extract unbelievable songs which are at this point in time, unprecedented classics. And shall we mention the majestic movie that accompanied this achievement of rock music? With all this said, I must admit that I never understood the criticism towards 'The Wall', it is quite glorious and deserves all the praise it gets!

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The Wall today still hits me like it did in '79, I remember coming home from HS for weeks after it came out and doing one thing before anything, spinning The Wall (all 4 sides). It really is like a movie with ups and downs but as a complete movie its easily Best Picture caliber.

When I want to spin it I make sure I am ready to hear all 4 sides.....very rare I will only listen to 1-2 sides.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2021 at 10:36
Ohh no, no flat production at all! It was mastered at The Mastering Lab and my original version sounds amazing. The 2012 remaster that was cut by Doug Sax and James Guthrie is brilliant, this version opens up the sound a bit more and the soundstage is awesome! Certain parts of the original mix have a muddy mix and this is all fixed. Also cut at The Mastering Lab.

Both versions feature Waters bass guitar out front giving the sound a huge presence.
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