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Kind of Blue Sketches of Jack Johnson |
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Frenetic Zetetic 
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 Topic: Kind of Blue Sketches of Jack JohnsonPosted: January 16 2021 at 02:04 |
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Inspired by the other Miles Davis poll thread.
Which record do you prefer?
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Sacro_Porgo
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 02:31 |
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Well I haven't listened to Jack Johnson yet, but in the meantime I'm going to take the time to vote for Sketches Of Spain because it's a surreal, otherworldly, spiritual gem of a record greatly outshined by the much less interesting Kind Of Blue (which is a great album, just not that interesting).
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 02:39 |
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Jack Johnson is next level, there are licks all over the place. There's an absolutely masterful math rock riff by McLaughlin deep in the first track.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 02:51 |
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I only know Kind of Blue, and it's the only original Miles Davis album I have on CD, so I'm Kind of voting for it.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 02:54 |
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I suggest getting a copy of Jack Johnson and throwing it on after your responsibilities are done for the day, perhaps on a Saturday evening, Paul!
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 03:01 |
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Maybe I'll find time to listen to Jack Johnson when I've finally finished listening to Rick Wakeman's 100+ albums.
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 03:56 |
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 04:05 |
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they're not really comparable at all (and all three rank in my top 5 Miles, along with the two in the other poll. Again, if Bitches was more of a Macero album, Sketches is more of a Gil Evans album with Miles as a star guest.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 04:19 |
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This is a fair assessment!  BB is like a living, breathing, surrealist painting put to sound for me. Perhaps that's why I enjoy it. It appeals to my abstract nature lol. Macero had a LOT to do with that, as you said!
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To really undetwstand Macero's role in BB, one must listyen at the Complete BB sessions boxsets, to see what he worked from to build Bitches. Just like in Sketches, Evans is the real mastermind of the album, with his great orchestrations and arrangements. However I'm much less enthoused by the other Evans/Davis collaborations. |
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I don’t really understand why you’d vote in this poll, if you know only the one album? I totally get it when people vote in the larger polls, even if they’ve not heard everything listed. If there is a list of, say, 12 albums and I’ve listened to half or more of those, then it kind of makes sense that I might feel able to vote (though I probably still wouldn’t), but when you’re choosing between only two or three albums, knowing only one seems to not be a good place to be voting from? Despite its reputation (or perhaps because of it) I took some time before coming round to listening to Kind of Blue. I figured, rightly, that as good as it might (objectively) be, and as enjoyable as I might (subjectively) find it, there are other Davis albums I like far more. Of these three, I like Blue least. Not that I’m suggesting you necessarily go for either of these two next, but if the only Davis album you have is Blue, I’d urge you to explore further. The range of sounds and styles over Davis’s long career is incredible. I’m not going to lie and say I like everything he has done, because there’s a lot that doesn’t do anything for me. That said, for you, Blue might do, and I suspect it would still be your favourite even if you were familiar with all three of these. 🤔🤷🏻♂️ |
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Agreed, and I definitely have said BB box set my friend!
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 05:05 |
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Kind Of Blue, one of the greatest straight up jazz albums ever released.
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Yes, I strongly suspect I'd still vote for Kind of Blue even if I'd heard all three albums in the poll.
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I don't know Jack Johnson; I like Sketches of Spain quite a bit more than Kind of Blue (it's personal, not saying it's the better album in any objective sense).
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Kind of Blue and Sketches. If you were to be talking about greatest jazz albums, these 2 would be in the mix.
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3 must’ve Miles Davis albums imho as there isn’t a like all 3 than it’s Kind Of Blue |
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Posted: January 16 2021 at 07:40 |
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For me it's a tie between Kind of Blue and Sketches of Spain. I have many fond memories while listening to both albums in a row.
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Damn ya'll are some boring ass traditionalist! I bet you guys like Pink Floyd, too?!
 Just playing, folks! This is exactly what I predicted lol. I'm honestly surprised more people don't get into ATTJJ!
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Exactly what I predicted, too. I find it surprising, even though I expected it (as paradoxical as that might sound), because you’d think on a prog forum people would go for something more than bread and butter. I don’t disagree with any of the comments above that Blue is one of the greatest jazz albums ever. But it is straight up jazz. It surprises me that so many people prefer straight up jazz to something with a little more bite and edge. I love Blue - don’t get me wrong, but most prog fans I know tolerate jazz, or don’t really like it at all, unless it’s a bit “progged up”. It’s only because I had a friend at school who was really into jazz, and got me into it, that I can appreciate Blue beyond recognising its greatness. Thus, while I would expect most people to recognise it being a great album, and it’s importance, I wouldn’t necessarily expect that recognition to translate into liking it. I wonder how many people know and/or like Miles beyond the obvious (and almost cliché) candidates? That’s not meant as a criticism, or to be condescending, so much as an observation. I would think a lot of people are like me, and have heard of Miles Davis (who hasn’t) and isn’t sure where to start. The obvious candidates are also the obvious places to start. The order I bought Miles Davis albums was: 1. Bitches Brew 2. Silent Way 3. Jack Johnson 4. Amandia 5. Aura I’m honestly not sure how far down the line Blue was, but I stayed away from it initially - not because I thought I wouldn’t like it, but because I figured I would, and that I kind of knew how it would sound, so I wanted to explore other stuff first. |
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