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    Posted: January 17 2021 at 10:42
Yes, it's another list. I finally got around to cataloguing my entire prog collection on CD (with the number of albums in brackets) whist listening to Rick Wakeman's 100+ albums. Smile
 
Canterbury Scene Total Albums = 14
 
Caravan (10); Steve Hillage (4)
 
Crossover Prog Total Albums = 99
 
Argent (1); Barclay James Harvest (6); Be Bop Deluxe (5); Kate Bush (8); Electric Light Orchestra (8); Peter Gabriel (1); Justin Hayward & John Lodge (1);  Kayak (2); The Moody Blues (16); Mike Oldfield (14); Sally Oldfield (3); The Alan Parsons Project (6); Robert Plant (5); Procol Harum (4); Radiohead (3); Rare Bird (2); Roxy Music (2); Todd Rundgren (5); Supertramp (3); Talk Talk (1); Roger Waters (4)
 
Eclectic Prog Total Albums = 17
 
Frumpy (1); Steve Hackett (5); King Crimson (1); Sky (2); Traffic (6); Van der Graaf Generator (2)
 
Heavy Prog Total Albums = 17
 
Porcupine Tree (5); Rush (2); Uriah Heep (10)
 
Indo Prog/Raga Rock Total Albums = 2
 
Quintessence (2)
 
Jazz-Rock/Fusion Total Albums = 74
 
Jeff Beck (5); Blood, Sweat & Tears (5); Chicago (6); Billy Cobham (1); Colosseum (1); Miles Davis (2); George Duke (8); Jan Hammer (1); Herbie Hancock (3); Return to Forever (1); Santana (30); Carlos Santana (1); Solution (2); Steely Dan (3); Lenny White (5)
 
Krautrock Total Albums = 1
 
Holger Czukay (1) 

Neo Prog Total Albums = 4

Marillion (4)
 
Prog Folk Total Albums = 54
 
Amazing Blondel (1); Tim Buckley (5); Clannad (6); Dead Can Dance (7); Judy Dyble (1); Espers (3); Iona (1); Jethro Tull (6); Loudest Whisper (1); John Martyn (3); Mellow Candle (1); Mostly Autumn (3); Pentangle (2); Strawbs (7); Trader Horne (1); Trees (2); Trembling Bells (4)
 
Prog Related Total Albums = 98
 
Jon Anderson (1); Asia (1); Peter Bardens (1); Black Sabbath (4); Blue Oyster Cult (8); David Bowie (10); Budgie (3); Fairport Convention (6); Flied Egg (1); David Gilmour (5); Roger Glover (1); Japan (1); Jean Michele Jarre (2); Jon & Vangelis (5); Journey (2); Led Zeppelin (14); Magna Carta (6); Mercury Rev (3); Jimmy Page & Robert Plant (2); Queen (8); Rainbow (1); Styx (1); Super Furry Animals (5); Vangelis (3); Wishbone Ash (4)
 
Progressive Electronic Total Albums = 27
 
Ian Boddy (5); Edgar Froese (5); Kitaro (1); Mark Shreeve (3); Tangerine Dream (12); Wavestar (1)
 
Progressive Metal Total Albums = 15
 
Dream Theater (7); Epica (1); Nightwish (7)
 
Proto Prog Total Albums = 62
 
Andromeda (1); The Beatles (4); Deep Purple (2); The Doors (8); The Gods (1); The Gun (1); H.P. Lovecraft (2); Jimi Hendrix (5); Iron Butterfly (5); It's a Beautiful Day (2); Jefferson Airplane (10); Nirvana (1); The Pretty Things (2); Spirit (5); Spooky Tooth (7); Tomorrow (1); Vanilla Fudge (5)
 
Psychedelic/Space Rock Total Albums = 31
 
Arcadium (1); Astra (2); Group 1850 (2);  Hawkwind (3); Jade Warrior (2); Man (5); Nektar (5); Pink Floyd (9); Pond (2)
 
Symphonic Prog Total Albums =62
 
Camel (9); Earth and Fire (2); Emerson, Lake & Palmer (1); The Enid (2); Focus (1); Fruupp (2); Genesis (9); Greenslade (1); Kansas (6); Nick Magnus (1); Renaissance (10); Rick Wakeman (5); Yes (13)
 
Total number of prog albums across all genres = 576


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I donít think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

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I've been trying to do this on Rate Your Music. It started off easy, but it's starting to take more time because I have editions of releases not listed and I have to add them in myself, scan the covers of some of them, plus I have a stack of stuff where the artist doesn't exist. I've added a couple artists to RYM, but it's also time consuming. 

I have some classical music CDs not on the site, and the rules are really complex for those, so I haven't attempted them. Plus a stack of CDs I bought from the old independent artists site mp3.com (ca. late 1990s through about 2003). These artists are hard to add because they haven't had a web presence in years and I have to try to hunt them down on old web pages stored in the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine.

I haven't even touched the vinyl stuff, though I sold off the bulk of that years ago.
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Cataloguing your collection on somewhere like RYM or Discogs is easier though, than manually doing so against the PA database. I wouldnít want to try working out how my CD collection would be divided by PAís ďgenresĒ. It would take a long time, and would serve no purpose, apart from having done it. At least on RYM or Discogs or similar, it is more dynamic and useful. (Not that Iíve done it there, either....)

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I donít think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I donít think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile

When you have hundreds of CDs and albums, just keeping them in alphabetical order is enough of a chore. Breaking individual bands and artists down by genre would be fruitless. Frank Zappa....let's see....he goes under Z, that's it. Not under fusion, doo-wap, musique concrete, orchestral, rock, or whatever. Just Z.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I donít think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile

When you have hundreds of CDs and albums, just keeping them in alphabetical order is enough of a chore. Breaking individual bands and artists down by genre would be fruitless. Frank Zappa....let's see....he goes under Z, that's it. Not under fusion, doo-wap, musique concrete, orchestral, rock, or whatever. Just Z.
Agree.....for my digital catalog I do have artists by genre using metadata edit software so it shows up when playing. Whether it is 100% accurate based on PA or any other list is not a worry for me, in a lot of cases I have made up genre or sub-genres, I mean it is MY music catalog Big smile.

For my records in my bins they are not in alphabetical order, they are separated by band/artist name. Although I do not mix for example The Flower Kings section is only that, does not include Anderson Stolt LP.

Although sounds like a great Covid stay home project....Catalog everything!
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So you did a beautiful job presenting your data in your opening post...then completely blew it by not giving us a total. I hate doing math so I'm not going to add them up myself.

As for my collection, back when we all used paper and pen/pencil, I had my LP's on recipe cards. Included year of release, and track list on A/B sides

When we finally got a PC (1990 I think) I started a spread sheet.
I'm in the final stages of completing it now as I do one more sift through the collection.
Still some blanks to fill in, I have separate tabs for LP's and CD's as well.
Looks something like this...




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^ Thanks for reminding me to include the grand total. Thumbs Up
 
Total number of prog albums across all genres = 565
 
That's out of a total of around 3,000 CD's overall.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I donít think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile

When you have hundreds of CDs and albums, just keeping them in alphabetical order is enough of a chore. Breaking individual bands and artists down by genre would be fruitless. Frank Zappa....let's see....he goes under Z, that's it. Not under fusion, doo-wap, musique concrete, orchestral, rock, or whatever. Just Z.

Agreed! I find it amazing that Paul organises his CDs by shelves, where each shelf represents a different genre. I donít know how I would find anything. I mean, I guess I would get used to it. But anything other than alphabetical order seems additional effort that I personally couldnít be bothered with. There are too many bands and artists that have traversed multiple genres across their discographies, without even worrying about those who have elements of multiple genres in just one release.

But each to their own. I would say that as his collection gets larger, he might turn to alphabetising, but given he has over 3000 CDs, and still organises/catalogues/shelves his collection by genre, I donít think heís going to change anytime soon....

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Agree.....for my digital catalog I do have artists by genre using metadata edit software so it shows up when playing. Whether it is 100% accurate based on PA or any other list is not a worry for me, in a lot of cases I have made up genre or sub-genres, I mean it is MY music catalog Big smile.

For my records in my bins they are not in alphabetical order, they are separated by band/artist name. Although I do not mix for example The Flower Kings section is only that, does not include Anderson Stolt LP.

Although sounds like a great Covid stay home project....Catalog everything!

Physical collections are quite different from digital in that way. It is incredibly useful being able to sort or search through a digital collection by metadata (be it year, genre, record label, or whatever else youíve ascribed to your collection). But for physical, anything other than alphabetical is terribly cumbersome.

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I wonder if anyone out there arranges their collection by what they smell like.
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I wonder if anyone out there arranges their collection by what they smell like.

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I know someone who organises their collection by record label, which is arguably even crazier than organising by genre. 🤔

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I donít think I could ever find the time to catalog my collection in that way. 😱

It took me about four hours in total to list my entire prog collection, but the time passed really quickly listening to Rick Wakeman at the same time, and I came across several artists who I didn't realise were listed on ProgArchives, so it was time well spent. Smile

When you have hundreds of CDs and albums, just keeping them in alphabetical order is enough of a chore. Breaking individual bands and artists down by genre would be fruitless. Frank Zappa....let's see....he goes under Z, that's it. Not under fusion, doo-wap, musique concrete, orchestral, rock, or whatever. Just Z.

Agreed! I find it amazing that Paul organises his CDs by shelves, where each shelf represents a different genre. I donít know how I would find anything. I mean, I guess I would get used to it. But anything other than alphabetical order seems additional effort that I personally couldnít be bothered with. There are too many bands and artists that have traversed multiple genres across their discographies, without even worrying about those who have elements of multiple genres in just one release.

But each to their own. I would say that as his collection gets larger, he might turn to alphabetising, but given he has over 3000 CDs, and still organises/catalogues/shelves his collection by genre, I donít think heís going to change anytime soon....

Well, I've given up counting how many CDs and albums I have. And you are right, for physical product alphabetizing is the simplest way to go....the Occam's razor of finding a specific CD in a sea of CDs with tiny lettering along their spines. And even then, when you have 20-something Beatles or Jethro Tull or King Crimson CDs, even that takes a minute to find a specific one. And then there are the boxed sets. LOL
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Here's a list of how I organise my CD collection into 25 separate categories (for anyone who hasn't already seen it). Smile
 
 
Alternative Rock/Indie Rock
Box Sets
Classical Crossover
Country
Dance Music
Disco
Easy Listening
Electronica
Folk
Hard Rock
Heavy Metal/Symphonic Metal
Indie Pop
Jazz-Funk/Smooth Jazz
New Age
Pop/Rock groups (2 full racks)
Prog Rock
Psychedelic Pop
Psychedelic Rock
Sophisti-Pop
Soul/Motown
Soundtracks
Synth Pop
Various Artists Compilations
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Well, I've given up counting how many CDs and albums I have. And you are right, for physical product alphabetizing is the simplest way to go....the Occam's razor of finding a specific CD in a sea of CDs with tiny lettering along their spines. And even then, when you have 20-something Beatles or Jethro Tull or King Crimson CDs, even that takes a minute to find a specific one. And then there are the boxed sets. LOL
Boxed sets and odd-sized digipaks are the only thing that stops my collection from being uniformly alphabetised. I suppose it depends on what kind of shelving/storage unit someone uses, but my shelves donít allow much extra space in terms of height or depth, so if I can fit something in (including smaller box sets) then I will, but all the rest of the odds and sods have to find a place somewhere else. They are as alphabetised as possible, but because of the varying shapes and sizes, some pragmatism is applied. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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@Psychedelic Paul Total respect for cataloging your collection but. Iím definitely absolutely 💯 % not doing it



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Here's a list of how I organise my CD collection into 25 separate categories (for anyone who hasn't already seen it). Smile

To be fair, itís not the actual number of categories that is the problem. I have 26 separate categories (A-Z). 😜

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I know someone who organizes their collection by record label, which is arguably even crazier than organizing by genre. 🤔

(Sorry, I did some spelling corrections)

This would probably still require the sub division of artist-title-year etc. I would think.
Every sorting hat will require some sort of sub sections
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