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    Posted: January 23 2021 at 05:10
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Also, my dad still says The Who are far and away THE loudest band he's ever seen/heard live.

Back in the day, they were. The only two bands I saw who came close to matching them were Rainbow and Motörhead.
I always knew there was a head banger under that prog exterior!

Motorhead was legendarily loud, I'd argue louder than Rainbow in the 80's once they picked up after Ace of Spades.

Also, I THINK ManoWar held the record for single-loudest band/vocal/note etc. for quite some time?

Ha! Reminds me of when i saw Motorhead on the Bomber tour! i was right up the front but got stuck near the PA.. i literally couldnt hear for three days after that- just white noise! UFO were pretty loud when i saw them too.. its amazing after a youth of loud music, an incident involving a home- made explosive and a (until relatively recently) a lifetime of riding large single and twin cylinder motorcycles that i can hear at all!

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Also, my dad still says The Who are far and away THE loudest band he's ever seen/heard live.
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Both of my parents liked Country and Western, and my mom's favorite became "Easy Listening". 

So, my musical tastes were almost in opposition. But, I remember playing Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime in my living room right after I bought it, and hearing my mom saying "That is very good music." 

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Also, my dad still says The Who are far and away THE loudest band he's ever seen/heard live.

Back in the day, they were. The only two bands I saw who came close to matching them were Rainbow and Motörhead.
I always knew there was a head banger under that prog exterior!

Motorhead was legendarily loud, I'd argue louder than Rainbow in the 80's once they picked up after Ace of Spades.

Also, I THINK ManoWar held the record for single-loudest band/vocal/note etc. for quite some time?

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I was brought up in a house where I was exposed to Led Zep, Genesis, Tangerine Dream, Mike Oldfield, Cream, Supertramp, Peter Gabriel. I was born in the early 70s and I still love music from that era - not specifically showing affinity to any one band (although Supertramp & Genesis are up there) but there's certainly a sound and feeling that I gravitate towards.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Also, my dad still says The Who are far and away THE loudest band he's ever seen/heard live.

Back in the day, they were. The only two bands I saw who came close to matching them were Rainbow and Motörhead.
I always knew there was a head banger under that prog exterior!
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Also, my dad still says The Who are far and away THE loudest band he's ever seen/heard live.

Back in the day, they were. The only two bands I saw who came close to matching them were Rainbow and Motörhead.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Xanadu might seem cheesy to some people too, but it just happens to be my favourite musical, and even better, it's listed on ProgArchives too. Thumbs Up

might? LOL

it's listed on PA because ELO is part of the soundtrack LOL
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Also, my dad still says The Who are far and away THE loudest band he's ever seen/heard live.

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^ Xanadu might seem cheesy to some people too, but it just happens to be my favourite musical, and even better, it's listed on ProgArchives too. Thumbs Up

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Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Luckily, they never dragged me to The Sound Of Music

Sound of music is a classic movie with great music. Sure, most of us have seen it a hundred times over in our lives, but most songs in that film are fantastic. Well written, timeless and memorable.

I get it might seem cheesy to most, but I still love it. Although West Side Story and Oklahoma are just as good imo.

Being from NYC, I'm more of a WS Story fan, but I understand why people like TSoM and I'm not inocking it. It's the movie equivalent of listening to ABBA. I just love Dancing Queen.

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

My father saw Yes on the CTTE AND Relayer tours in Boston, as well as PF on Animals tour, etc. Cream, etc.

"Back then, we just called it rock and roll, and it was all awesome! Yes was something special though!" - My dad Cool
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My father saw Yes on the CTTE AND Relayer tours in Boston, as well as PF on Animals tour, etc. Cream, etc.

"Back then, we just called it rock and roll, and it was all awesome! Yes was something special though!" - My dad Cool

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Luckily, they never dragged me to The Sound Of Music

Sound of music is a classic movie with great music. Sure, most of us have seen it a hundred times over in our lives, but most songs in that film are fantastic. Well written, timeless and memorable.

I get it might seem cheesy to most, but I still love it. Although West Side Story and Oklahoma are just as good imo.


I agree...and I prefer West Side Story (probably because my fav actress Natalie Wood starred in it).
I remember buying the WSS s/t along with Kimono My House and Steppenwolf live as a kid; for me it was normal even though I knew WSS was quite AOR.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Luckily, they never dragged me to The Sound Of Music

Sound of music is a classic movie with great music. Sure, most of us have seen it a hundred times over in our lives, but most songs in that film are fantastic. Well written, timeless and memorable.

I get it might seem cheesy to most, but I still love it. Although West Side Story and Oklahoma are just as good imo.

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I inherited my music junkiedom from my father. He’s always had a ton of records (and later, CDs; now he also buys hi-res digital files). Although his primary jam was and is jazz music, he’s always had a pretty healthy interest in rock too, and he tends more towards the proggier side of things. I have very early memories of hearing albums like Hot Rats and Caravanserai, and he and I both became pretty dedicated Camel fans in the late 70s, after the local Miami rock station (“Zeta 4” was its nickname, I recall) played their entire “Breathless” album (they always played a full album at noon on Saturdays, and my dad would have the tape deck ready). He and I still trade CDs back and forth, and take several trips a year to record stores together (in the pre-Covid days).

My daughter (15) was exposed to a lot of Beatles at a very young age (just like I and her mother was) so I think the rest should take care of itself. She has next to zero interest in most of the music I listen to, but at least her upbringing and living in our household all this time has impressed on her that music in general is good enough a pursuit to be taken seriously. She’s quite a connoisseur of musicals (something I don’t particularly care for). There are SO many musicals out now, you wouldn’t believe it. Nearly all of them are really quirky, ironic, absurd, or some combination of these things. I think I like the direction her generation’s underground humor is going.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

My parents had no influence on my enjoyment of music. They both listened to classical music and songs from the great era of American Musicals from the '50s. I didn't dislike that sort of music, but they despised rock and pop music, even so far as mocking it, which did rub off as I only really started to like my owns styles as a teen. As a kid they dragged me off to the movies to see The Sound of Music - I still hate that film to this day. Oddly I now like some classical, particularly Russian composers who my father favoured and whilst I can't bear stage musicals I do like the older stuff (Carousel, Oklahoma etc.)

My parents liked the old musicals too. Luckily, they never dragged me to The Sound Of Music, but did like Yellow Submarine.

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Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

My parents had no influence on my enjoyment of music. They both listened to classical music and songs from the great era of American Musicals from the '50s. I didn't dislike that sort of music, but they despised rock and pop music, even so far as mocking it, which did rub off as I only really started to like my owns styles as a teen. As a kid they dragged me off to the movies to see The Sound of Music - I still hate that film to this day. Oddly I now like some classical, particularly Russian composers who my father favoured and whilst I can't bear stage musicals I do like the older stuff (Carousel, Oklahoma etc.)
My parents liked the old musicals too. Luckily, they never dragged me to The Sound Of Music, but did like Yellow Submarine.
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My parents had no influence on my enjoyment of music. They both listened to classical music and songs from the great era of American Musicals from the '50s. I didn't dislike that sort of music, but they despised rock and pop music, even so far as mocking it, which did rub off as I only really started to like my owns styles as a teen. As a kid they dragged me off to the movies to see The Sound of Music - I still hate that film to this day. Oddly I now like some classical, particularly Russian composers who my father favoured and whilst I can't bear stage musicals I do like the older stuff (Carousel, Oklahoma etc.)
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Originally posted by triptych triptych wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Yes, but it's time to stop talking about it and get back to the topic.


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"<span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">Progressive rock implies a particular mindset in recording and performing music, an predisposition to test established limits and boundaries. Stylistically speaking, progressive rock is all over the map. Pioneering artists, unfettered by preconceived notions of the status quo, can be found within all musical categories.</span>
<p style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">Furthermore, the means by which an artist displays "progressive" leanings may vary according to the presence of one (or more) of the following features:

<p style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">(1) complex, often lengthy, compositions

<p style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">(2) virtuostic performances

<p style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">(3) exotic and/or eclectic instrumentation

<p style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">The Beatles' release of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band, represented a watershed development in the development of the genre. In retrospect, examples of progressive rock can be identified as existing prior to that album's appearance in June 1967, ranging from Elvis Presley's early rockabilly experiments to the Byrds' folk rock classics recorded between 1965-1967. However, post-Sgt. Pepper works tended to exude a seriousness of purpose (i.e., the consideration of aesthetics over the commercial marketplace) hitherto relegated to the jazz and classical music sectors. The emergence of rock journalism, largely built around young intellectuals who had grown up listening to rock 'n' roll and other popular music genres, helped to spread the gospel of highbrow rock art. The youth subculture, then preoccupied with weighty social matters such as civil rights and the anti-Vietnam War movement, wholeheartedly bought into the concept.

<p style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">The concept album represented a notable subgenre within the progressive rock movement. In view of the increased profit-making potential of the long-playing twelve-inch record (which generally included ten to fourteen songs and ranged in length from thirty to fifty minutes) over forty-five r.p.m. singles, record companies concentrated their promotional efforts toward establishing the l.p. as the primary mode of aesthetic expression within the rock scene. Accordingly, rock musicians began experimenting with ways of presenting a unified thematic message (both in the music and song lyrics) within the framework of a record album.

Fantastic! I just hope that he's a prog fan now.
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