Heavy Prog Britannia: First Album

dr wu23 wrote: Logan wrote: nick_h_nz wrote: Awesoreno wrote: It's going to be weird seeing PT go far in these polls because of the amount of albums they have in comparison to some of the other groups, yet 2/3rds of their discography doesn't really belong in Heavy Prog. We're going to be seeing two- to three-album groups drop like flies and they'll still be losing to The Sky Moves Sideways, a psych album (though I predict the winner of that poll overall will be The Mountain by Haken). I am definitely expecting PT to gain large amounts of votes for later albums, but I’m quite surprised they’ve garnered as many as they have for the debut, which is a fairly patchy beast at best. Do people really prefer it over all the other albums listed here, or are they voting for the band rather than the album? Or perhaps haven’t listened to most/all the others, and are voting for the familiar? I like PT, and expect to be voting for them in future heavy prog polls, but the debut isn’t anywhere near being in the running in this one. There are so many other albums listed that are more consistent and cohesive, and more enjoyable for that. 🤷🏻‍♂️ But yes, I know, that’s just my view. And quite obviously, some people think more of the debut than I do. Also, no one else for Necromandus? 😜🤪 It's been said that PT could have recorded an album of farts and people would still vote for it. Wilson is something of the Donald Trump of Prog. It's been clear to me that some people just vote for the band they like regardless of the album or what its up against. Comparing Wilson to Trump...now that's harsh.... I think his work with PT and early solo things are quite good....it surprises me that so many on PA bash him but then many here like Oldfield so there is no accounting for taste.

"I could record an album of farts in the middle of Fifth Avenue and I wouldn't lose any voters" (Porkupine Trump).

"I could incite an angry mob to storm PA and still have huge support."

The Trump analogy is meant to say more about certain perceptions of the fanbase than the object of adoration from the fanbase in case it's not clear to all.

I quite like the early stuff myself, and actually prefer it to the later music. But like with Trump, sometimes the fans have been considered rather of the extreme fanboy type who will accept and highly rate anything and everything. I have seen as much bashing of Wilson's fans as I have seen bashing of Wilson (perhaps mostly from Micky). Some of the Wilson dislike hasn't been as much about his music as comments he has made. See this topic for instance, Steven Wilson a hater? (CLICK) I'm making no judgment of any of his comments, and do remember that he has posted here and may still check the forum now and then.

By the way, I wouldn't describe On the Sunday of Life... as Heavy Prog, more as Psych Alt. Prog. And to me it doesn't fit very well with the heavy classic heavy hitters in the poll.

Edited by Logan - January 25 2021 at 14:17

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Haken for me

Psychedelic Paul wrote: ^ I've been a fan of Steven Wilson ever since he said, "I hate boy bands" at a concert performance.   And on the subject of Porcupine Tree, I wouldn't consider their first album to be Heavy Prog either, but it's better - and less controversial -  than including Porcupine Tree in a Neo Prog poll again.

Neo Prog should not be let out of the Matrix. ;)

I think of PT as on the Nu-Prog side, meaning not just modern (comparatively to the classic Prog era) but in having alternative rock elements.

I like Ni-Prog, which is what the knights who say Ni were about until they became the knights who say ""Ekky-ekky-ekky-ekky-z'Bang, zoom-Boing, z'nourrrwringnmmm" which basically refers to kinds of avant prog.

Haken>PT>AR

Uriah Heap!

There are some I don't listened yet, but we have here three classic albums I really love: Gravy Train, Quatermass and Sea Shanties.

tough choice!, voted the most frenetic album, High Tide!