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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2021 at 14:13
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

It's going to be weird seeing PT go far in these polls because of the amount of albums they have in comparison to some of the other groups, yet 2/3rds of their discography doesn't really belong in Heavy Prog. We're going to be seeing two- to three-album groups drop like flies and they'll still be losing to The Sky Moves Sideways, a psych album (though I predict the winner of that poll overall will be The Mountain by Haken).


I am definitely expecting PT to gain large amounts of votes for later albums, but Iím quite surprised theyíve garnered as many as they have for the debut, which is a fairly patchy beast at best. Do people really prefer it over all the other albums listed here, or are they voting for the band rather than the album? Or perhaps havenít listened to most/all the others, and are voting for the familiar?

I like PT, and expect to be voting for them in future heavy prog polls, but the debut isnít anywhere near being in the running in this one. There are so many other albums listed that are more consistent and cohesive, and more enjoyable for that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

But yes, I know, thatís just my view. And quite obviously, some people think more of the debut than I do.

Also, no one else for Necromandus? 😜🤪



It's been said that PT could have recorded an album of farts and people would still vote for it. Wilson is something of the Donald Trump of Prog.

It's been clear to me that some people just vote for the band they like regardless of the album or what its up against.


Comparing Wilson to Trump...now that's harsh....LOL
I think his work with PT and early solo things are quite good....it surprises me that so many on PA bash him but then many here like Oldfield so there is no accounting for taste.
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"I could record an album of farts in the middle of Fifth Avenue and I wouldn't lose any voters" (Porkupine Trump).

"I could incite an angry mob to storm PA and still have huge support."

The Trump analogy is meant to say more about certain perceptions of the fanbase than the object of adoration from the fanbase in case it's not clear to all.

I quite like the early stuff myself, and actually prefer it to the later music. But like with Trump, sometimes the fans have been considered rather of the extreme fanboy type who will accept and highly rate anything and everything. I have seen as much bashing of Wilson's fans as I have seen bashing of Wilson (perhaps mostly from Micky). Some of the Wilson dislike hasn't been as much about his music as comments he has made. See this topic for instance, Steven Wilson a hater? (CLICK) I'm making no judgment of any of his comments, and do remember that he has posted here and may still check the forum now and then.

By the way, I wouldn't describe On the Sunday of Life... as Heavy Prog, more as Psych Alt. Prog. And to me it doesn't fit very well with the heavy classic heavy hitters in the poll.

Edited by Logan - January 25 2021 at 14:17
"The first step on the path to wisdom is the recognition of one's own ignorance" (paraphrased from Plato).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2021 at 14:28
^ I've been a fan of Steven Wilson ever since he said, "I hate boy bands" at a concert performance.  Smile

And on the subject of Porcupine Tree, I wouldn't consider their first album to be Heavy Prog either, but it's better - and less controversial -  than including Porcupine Tree in a Neo Prog poll again. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote nick_h_nz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2021 at 15:07
My favourite PT releases are the early ones - up until Signify. But Iíve never been a fan of the debut as a whole. Grab the Stars Die compilation, and youíve more or less got whatís worth getting from Sunday. Iím not saying itís impossible for someone to think Sunday is the best album in this list, but it does strike me as unlikely if theyíve listened to most/all of the albums Iím it. It seems more likely that people are voting for the band, rather than the album. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think the analogy with Trump is quite apt, in terms of the fanbase of each. 😄

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2021 at 15:57
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ I've been a fan of Steven Wilson ever since he said, "I hate boy bands" at a concert performance.††Smile

And on the subject of Porcupine Tree, I wouldn't consider their first album to be Heavy Prog either, but it's better - and less controversial -† than including Porcupine Tree in a Neo Prog poll again.†Wink


Neo Prog should not be let out of the Matrix. ;)

I think of PT as on the Nu-Prog side, meaning not just modern (comparatively to the classic Prog era) but in having alternative rock elements.

I like Ni-Prog, which is what the knights who say Ni were about until they became the knights who say ""Ekky-ekky-ekky-ekky-z'Bang, zoom-Boing, z'nourrrwringnmmm" which basically refers to kinds of avant prog.

"The first step on the path to wisdom is the recognition of one's own ignorance" (paraphrased from Plato).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Awesoreno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2021 at 22:10
I was not making a comment about PT or SW being worthy of being on the list from a quality standpoint by the way. I just mean that they never would have been put in Heavy in the first place if they never recorded their last four albums. Before that, we have the Psych/Space phase, and then that transitional phase that probably would have landed them in Crossover if it was a separate band. 

Paul, if you extended the poll to an eighth entry, as you said, that would actually be their first release that could be considered "Heavy Prog" by this site, In Absentia. Unless Voyage 34 is used, in which case, we'd have to wait for poll #9. Far be it from me to tell you how to run your polls, but I probably would have just started with In Absentia if I were to include them. However, you may be unfamiliar with their discography, or you simply don't care. Either is fine by me. Not judging.

It'll just be weird seeing The Sky Moves Sideways and Signify do well (and potentially win) one of these sub-genre polls when it's for Heavy as opposed to P/S.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2021 at 00:03
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2021 at 00:59
Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

I was not making a comment about PT or SW being worthy of being on the list from a quality standpoint by the way. I just mean that they never would have been put in Heavy in the first place if they never recorded their last four albums. Before that, we have the Psych/Space phase, and then that transitional phase that probably would have landed them in Crossover if it was a separate band. 

Paul, if you extended the poll to an eighth entry, as you said, that would actually be their first release that could be considered "Heavy Prog" by this site, In Absentia. Unless Voyage 34 is used, in which case, we'd have to wait for poll #9. Far be it from me to tell you how to run your polls, but I probably would have just started with In Absentia if I were to include them. However, you may be unfamiliar with their discography, or you simply don't care. Either is fine by me. Not judging.

It'll just be weird seeing The Sky Moves Sideways and Signify do well (and potentially win) one of these sub-genre polls when it's for Heavy as opposed to P/S.
Steven Wilson can get a bit prickly when it comes to categorising Porcupine Tree's music, but I just went along with PA's Heavy Prog definition this time around, mainly because it's less controversial than including Porcupine Tree in a Neo Prog poll again. Smile 


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 26 2021 at 01:01
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I was about to vote for Indian Summer when I've seen Uriah Heep
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Uriah Heep - Very 'eavy Very 'umble (1970)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Olape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2021 at 13:39
There are some I don't listened yet, but we have here three classic albums I really love: Gravy Train, Quatermass and Sea Shanties.

Gravy Train +1 (my favorite from them)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2021 at 14:01
Unusually for me, I've actually listened to 15 of the albums in this poll, which makes it hard to decide who to vote for. Ermm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Progmind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2021 at 05:58
tough choice!, voted the most frenetic album, High Tide!
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Not very familiar with British heavy. Voted Fields, Heep (I'm not a fan, but their debut is ok) is runner-up.
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