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Mrofnoctonod 
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 Topic: Portal - Canadian Prog Rock Band
Posted: January 26 2021 at 06:28 |
Hello, Howdy and Howzit from South Africa.
I'd love to suggest a Canadian band, Portal, for inclusion in the Prog Archives. Here's a link to the album on which I first learned about them.
It's called Blood Red Tape. https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Red-Tape-Portal/dp/B001IB62OI. It's also available on iTunes. It's such good work, I'm surprised it's not listed. Seriously. In them I hear a lot of Karnivool, but with a street smart twist of Canada seriousness. There are also long, ominous Tool-esque sections of tension building, with raw explosive release as needed, all the while using the attention they create for singer Kenton Thomas to deliver cleverly crafted lyrics. Nothing is wasted. The reward for going on a journey with this band is incredible. Truly.
Here's a great article detailing their birth and influences. https://bravewords.com/news/edmontons-portal-release-progressive-metal-masterpiece And according to this one, it seems, Blood Red Tape will be the band's one gift to the world:
https://toiletovhell.com/in-memoriam-edmontons-portal/ Sniff sniff. Hey, and thanks for what you guys are doing, maintaining this ever-growing database and community.
Much love. Mr Ofnoctonod [an anagram for donotconform]
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 07:09 |
I would support that request, but the band was rejected by the prog metal team some time before. There would be a chance for a new evaluation if they had released a new album
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Mrofnoctonod
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 07:37 |
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Do we know what the grounds for rejection were?
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Cristi
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 08:18 |
Looking for info and listening links for this band, I found out there are at least 5 bands with this name 
grounds for rejection? oh my!
Three members of the team, back then voted "no". That's why they were rejected. how about not progressive enough, not experimental enough. How about generic Tool imitators?
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chopper
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 08:44 |
 Mrofnoctonod wrote:
Mr Ofnoctonod [an anagram for donotconform] |
That's not an anagram, it's just backwards. Well, I suppose that's technically an anagram.
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Logan
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 09:20 |
chopper wrote:
Mrofnoctonod wrote:
Mr Ofnoctonod [an anagram for donotconform] |
That's not an anagram, it's just backwards. Well, I suppose that's technically an anagram. |
Those are sometimes referred to as reverse anagrams or reversgrams, a semordnilap (palindromes in reverse), a backwards word, a flipgram, or a what the hell is that?
Edited by Logan - January 26 2021 at 09:21
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Mrofnoctonod
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 10:18 |
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That's a shame and a pity.
I think they displayed great musical maturity in how they were able to hold the listener's attention through long movements where not much seemed to be happening (and yet it was), and then delivered outstanding, well crafted lyrics on that album, and that, had they continued, we would be having a very different conversation today.
I think it's also unfortunate that they were judged on their Tool influences. They could just as easily be judged for sounding like Karnivool - but IMHO why is that a bad thing anyway? ALL music is derivative and iterative, unless you're Tim Smith or Frank Zappa.
Finally, forgive my lack of knowledge on the rules, but is it a requirement that a band produce more than one album in order to qualify (aside from other important things like mellotron usage quotas and time signature expectations, I'm guessing...)?
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Cristi
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 10:25 |
Mrofnoctonod wrote:
That's a shame and a pity.
I think they displayed great musical maturity in how they were able to hold the listener's attention through long movements where not much seemed to be happening (and yet it was), and then delivered outstanding, well crafted lyrics on that album, and that, had they continued, we would be having a very different conversation today.
I think it's also unfortunate that they were judged on their Tool influences. They could just as easily be judged for sounding like Karnivool - but IMHO why is that a bad thing anyway? ALL music is derivative and iterative, unless you're Tim Smith or Frank Zappa.
Finally, forgive my lack of knowledge on the rules, but is it a requirement that a band produce more than one album in order to qualify (aside from other important things like mellotron usage quotas and time signature expectations, I'm guessing...)? |
I made the Tool mentioning as joke. I don't know why they were rejected long ago. Only thing I can think of is that the team back then did not find them to be progressive.
Please don't make fuss about their rejection, we can't have every single band in the world and plus, if you ask me, we have some bad apples here as well. Sometimes I wonder where do we draw the line? 
Edited by Cristi - January 26 2021 at 10:26
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Mrofnoctonod
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 10:37 |
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Hey no worries, and please accept my apologies. No fuss intended.
I am thankful for this platform, and I understand there will be good decision days and bad decision days.
I also know that in the long run they will eventually appear in the archive so I don't have to fight for them now. I know they did a good enough job of producing a worthy work on their own.
Have a great day and thanks so much for responding!
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Mrofnoctonod
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Posted: January 26 2021 at 10:39 |
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Isn't it ironic that Palindrome isn't in fact a Palindrome?
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chopper
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Posted: January 27 2021 at 02:40 |
Logan wrote:
chopper wrote:
Mrofnoctonod wrote:
Mr Ofnoctonod [an anagram for donotconform] |
That's not an anagram, it's just backwards. Well, I suppose that's technically an anagram. |
Those are sometimes referred to as reverse anagrams or reversgrams, a semordnilap (palindromes in reverse), a backwards word, a flipgram, or a what the hell is that? |
Surely a palindrome in reverse is still a palindrome? I mean, how do you know if it's in reverse anyway?
My head hurts now.
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Mrofnoctonod
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Posted: January 27 2021 at 02:47 |
chopper wrote:
Logan wrote:
chopper wrote:
Mrofnoctonod wrote:
Mr Ofnoctonod [an anagram for donotconform] |
That's not an anagram, it's just backwards. Well, I suppose that's technically an anagram. |
Those are sometimes referred to as reverse anagrams or reversgrams, a semordnilap (palindromes in reverse), a backwards word, a flipgram, or a what the hell is that? |
Surely a palindrome in reverse is still a palindrome? I mean, how do you know if it's in reverse anyway?
My head hurts now. |
LMAO - Correct, a true Palindrome would be impossible to discern with regards to its forward or backward vector, so, you are completely right in wondering how we would know if it was in reverse anyway. It upsets me no end that the writers of the original rules couldn't think far enough to make the technical term for a Palindrome, to be an actual Palindrome itself. I mean, seriously?! You're sitting there with the feather of a dead animal and ink from another, pondering what to name this interesting phenomenon, knowing that generations afterwards will be using it, and then you choose or make up the word Palindrome instead. Clearly that person did NOT work in marketing...!
Edited by Mrofnoctonod - January 27 2021 at 02:49
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"Once I made peace with the fact that deep down inside I'm just an algorithm, my life was sorted" - Mr Ofnoctonod
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progaardvark
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Posted: January 27 2021 at 06:02 |
chopper wrote:
Logan wrote:
chopper wrote:
Mrofnoctonod wrote:
Mr Ofnoctonod [an anagram for donotconform] |
That's not an anagram, it's just backwards. Well, I suppose that's technically an anagram. |
Those are sometimes referred to as reverse anagrams or reversgrams, a semordnilap (palindromes in reverse), a backwards word, a flipgram, or a what the hell is that? |
Surely a palindrome in reverse is still a palindrome? I mean, how do you know if it's in reverse anyway?
My head hurts now. |
Don't they beep when they're in reverse?
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Mrofnoctonod
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Posted: January 27 2021 at 11:08 |
progaardvark wrote:
chopper wrote:
Logan wrote:
chopper wrote:
Mrofnoctonod wrote:
Mr Ofnoctonod [an anagram for donotconform] |
That's not an anagram, it's just backwards. Well, I suppose that's technically an anagram. |
Those are sometimes referred to as reverse anagrams or reversgrams, a semordnilap (palindromes in reverse), a backwards word, a flipgram, or a what the hell is that? |
Surely a palindrome in reverse is still a palindrome? I mean, how do you know if it's in reverse anyway?
My head hurts now. |
Don't they beep when they're in reverse? |
Only when someone from health and safety is around. Otherwise they prefer being low key.
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"Once I made peace with the fact that deep down inside I'm just an algorithm, my life was sorted" - Mr Ofnoctonod
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Cristi
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Posted: January 27 2021 at 11:12 |
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^ funny off-topicness but this needs to be closed. Sorry...
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