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10-12 yrs and Iíll be in retirement too....hopefully. And whatever system I have at that point will be it!!
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I'm retired and live on a fixed income, so my current set-up is final.
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

^ That OPPO player is quite good. You could start by building around that transport. It is solid.
Thanks, but unless I win the lottery, this is my "forever" set-up.


It took me 8 years to build up my headphone rig. I know it is expensive but it is obtainable.


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^There are plenty of 5.1 mixes that come without a box set. They are sold as Blu-ray only. I know you are an audiophile and prefer LP's, but how many surround mixes have you listened to? Two that stand out for me are Stupid Dream and TAAB Part II. Also, curious how much moolah do you have invested in your stereo system and have you acoustically treated your listening room? You need to invite me over to experience this sonic nirvana you brag about.
You are an audiophile too. Which only means you are looking to hear music as best you can achieve given whatever your budget is. People who spend uber (define uber) money are no more an audiophile than someone who does not spend uber (define uber) money.
I prefer LPs because that media gives me the most natural, dynamic and revealing experience with my music and its highly engaging.

Just go find a hi-fi audio store (not Best BuyThumbs Down) and go and listen to their systems, both digital and analog.

My music room, like probably 95% of most is in my home where there are things like sofas, carpet, drapery, door opening, hallways, windows and such so trying to treat a room is almost impossible. If I had a 4 sided equal room with no windows you can treat a room effectively with first reflection points.......I won't tell you how much I spent, that's between me and my spousal unit and bank account, it's a hobby so I pay cash for everything, never finance or credit that is cra-cra! Plus it's very very rare I pay MSRP, but I have no issue giving you a gear list of what I have.  

Parasound Halo Integrated Amp
Music Hall mmf-7.1 Turntable, upgraded tonearm Project 9cc all carbon fiber
Music Hall Cruise Control 2.0
Lyra Delos MC Cartridge
Musical Surroundings Nova II Phono Preamp
NAD C545BEE CD Player
Teac X2000R R2R
Rega RX5 Speakers
Dual SVS SB2000 Subwoofers

I think that's all of it....LOL

Holy crap!!! I don't know what any of this gear is but I Googled some of the prices. Even below MSRP price - congrats! What do you do for a living to afford this stellar equipment? Your cartridge alone costs more than my entire set-up, it must sound stellar. Does your spousal unit approve of your hobby?  Does she listen to those Lee Morgan LP's with you? Tongue

There is only one hi-fi audio store in my area and I'm sure they won't have any music I'm familiar with to play on their system, so it does me no good. And I can't afford it. They would probably kick me out for having long hair, wearing blue jeans, and beat-up Chuck Taylors. LOL

Just for you to get a laugh out of my system. This is what I have....

Dennon 2801 Receiver 
Oppo BDP-93 (Blu-ray player)
5 Paradigm Legend Speakers 

She buys me records...so yes. You don't build a high-end system in a month unless you have uber money, like many it takes several years to build what you want. 
I coach HS lacrosse and do lacrosse camps in the summer and that funds my habit, my job pays the mortgage and taxes and buys food and worthless krapp like cars.
Nothing wrong with what you got, its wayy better than what I had as a teenager in my room, gotta start somewhere.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

^ That OPPO player is quite good. You could start by building around that transport. It is solid.
Thanks, but unless I win the lottery, this is my "forever" set-up.


It took me 8 years to build up my headphone rig. I know it is expensive but it is obtainable.
If I get a break it is Prog Time.
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

^ That OPPO player is quite good. You could start by building around that transport. It is solid.
Thanks, but unless I win the lottery, this is my "forever" set-up.
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^ That OPPO player is quite good. You could start by building around that transport. It is solid.
If I get a break it is Prog Time.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^There are plenty of 5.1 mixes that come without a box set. They are sold as Blu-ray only. I know you are an audiophile and prefer LP's, but how many surround mixes have you listened to? Two that stand out for me are Stupid Dream and TAAB Part II. Also, curious how much moolah do you have invested in your stereo system and have you acoustically treated your listening room? You need to invite me over to experience this sonic nirvana you brag about.
You are an audiophile too. Which only means you are looking to hear music as best you can achieve given whatever your budget is. People who spend uber (define uber) money are no more an audiophile than someone who does not spend uber (define uber) money.
I prefer LPs because that media gives me the most natural, dynamic and revealing experience with my music and its highly engaging.

Just go find a hi-fi audio store (not Best BuyThumbs Down) and go and listen to their systems, both digital and analog.

My music room, like probably 95% of most is in my home where there are things like sofas, carpet, drapery, door opening, hallways, windows and such so trying to treat a room is almost impossible. If I had a 4 sided equal room with no windows you can treat a room effectively with first reflection points.......I won't tell you how much I spent, that's between me and my spousal unit and bank account, it's a hobby so I pay cash for everything, never finance or credit that is cra-cra! Plus it's very very rare I pay MSRP, but I have no issue giving you a gear list of what I have.  

Parasound Halo Integrated Amp
Music Hall mmf-7.1 Turntable, upgraded tonearm Project 9cc all carbon fiber
Music Hall Cruise Control 2.0
Lyra Delos MC Cartridge
Musical Surroundings Nova II Phono Preamp
NAD C545BEE CD Player
Teac X2000R R2R
Rega RX5 Speakers
Dual SVS SB2000 Subwoofers

I think that's all of it....LOL

Holy crap!!! I don't know what any of this gear is but I Googled some of the prices. Even below MSRP price - congrats! What do you do for a living to afford this stellar equipment? Your cartridge alone costs more than my entire set-up, it must sound stellar. Does your spousal unit approve of your hobby?  Does she listen to those Lee Morgan LP's with you? Tongue

There is only one hi-fi audio store in my area and I'm sure they won't have any music I'm familiar with to play on their system, so it does me no good. And I can't afford it. They would probably kick me out for having long hair, wearing blue jeans, and beat-up Chuck Taylors. LOL

Just for you to get a laugh out of my system. This is what I have....

Dennon 2801 Receiver 
Oppo BDP-93 (Blu-ray player)
5 Paradigm Legend Speakers 








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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^There are plenty of 5.1 mixes that come without a box set. They are sold as Blu-ray only. I know you are an audiophile and prefer LP's, but how many surround mixes have you listened to? Two that stand out for me are Stupid Dream and TAAB Part II. Also, curious how much moolah do you have invested in your stereo system and have you acoustically treated your listening room? You need to invite me over to experience this sonic nirvana you brag about.
You are an audiophile too. Which only means you are looking to hear music as best you can achieve given whatever your budget is. People who spend uber (define uber) money are no more an audiophile than someone who does not spend uber (define uber) money.
I prefer LPs because that media gives me the most natural, dynamic and revealing experience with my music and its highly engaging.

Just go find a hi-fi audio store (not Best BuyThumbs Down) and go and listen to their systems, both digital and analog.

My music room, like probably 95% of most is in my home where there are things like sofas, carpet, drapery, door opening, hallways, windows and such so trying to treat a room is almost impossible. If I had a 4 sided equal room with no windows you can treat a room effectively with first reflection points.......I won't tell you how much I spent, that's between me and my spousal unit and bank account, it's a hobby so I pay cash for everything, never finance or credit that is cra-cra! Plus it's very very rare I pay MSRP, but I have no issue giving you a gear list of what I have.  

Parasound Halo Integrated Amp
Music Hall mmf-7.1 Turntable, upgraded tonearm Project 9cc all carbon fiber
Music Hall Cruise Control 2.0
Lyra Delos MC Cartridge
Musical Surroundings Nova II Phono Preamp
NAD C545BEE CD Player
Teac X2000R R2R
Rega RX5 Speakers
Dual SVS SB2000 Subwoofers

I think that's all of it....LOL


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Thanks for the recommendations.


Oh Iíve got plenty. Anytime. :)
If I get a break it is Prog Time.
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Thanks for the recommendations.
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Anybody here Alan Parsons 5.1 mixes?

So far, you can get Eye in the sky, Ammonia Avenue and Tales of mystery.

All amazing. Blu ray audio. Terrific stuff.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Just listened to Steven Wilson's Hand.Cannot.Erase. in DTS 5.1. Wow. Amazing. Takes the listening experience to another level that can't be experienced in stereo.
I have all his albums up to To The Bone on DVD/BD. Grace For Drowning is definitely my favourite Surround mix, very atmospheric.
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Just listened to Steven Wilson's Hand.Cannot.Erase. in DTS 5.1. Wow. Amazing. Takes the listening experience to another level that can't be experienced in stereo.
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Seems like 5.1 mixes have decreased significantly from ten years ago. Is this a dying format?

Do the majority on this forum have a 5.1 system and listen to music that way exclusively?



Not exclusively, but I can say when it comes to serious outward listening experiences, I go with 5.1.
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Awesome. What are some of your favorites?
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^If the fad is over, why does Steven Wilson keep mixing in 5.1? And why do people buy it? Don't all his remix/remasters come with a 5.1 mix?


Because it allows him to charge more for a CD box set. I don't think people are buying a separate 5.1 mix disc, it comes in a CD deluxe box set, so you get it by default.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Seems like 5.1 mixes have decreased significantly from ten years ago. Is this a dying format?

Do the majority on this forum have a 5.1 system and listen to music that way exclusively?



Not exclusively, but I can say when it comes to serious outward listening experiences, I go with 5.1.
:)
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The 5.1 mix codec is definitely a niche market much like anything else that exudes the audiophile aroma of things.
Keep in mind there are many upon many communities of people that love 5.1 audio and guess what? Iím one of them. I Rock that sh*t just about every weekend.
It has its advantages.

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^There are plenty of 5.1 mixes that come without a box set. They are sold as Blu-ray only. I know you are an audiophile and prefer LP's, but how many surround mixes have you listened to? Two that stand out for me are Stupid Dream and TAAB Part II. Also, curious how much moolah do you have invested in your stereo system and have you acoustically treated your listening room? You need to invite me over to experience this sonic nirvana you brag about.

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^If the fad is over, why does Steven Wilson keep mixing in 5.1? And why do people buy it? Don't all his remix/remasters come with a 5.1 mix?

Because it allows him to charge more for a CD box set. I don't think people are buying a separate 5.1 mix disc, it comes in a CD deluxe box set, so you get it by default.
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