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I've been reading tons of previous (sometimes ancient) threads about prog drummers. To my uneducated ears, the most impressive drummers I've ever heard from the "Classic Era" of prog include:
Billy Cobham Tony Williams Giulio Capiozzo Bill Bruford Lenny White Steve Gadd Phil Collins Carl Palmer Pierre Moerlen Narada Michael Walden Michael Shrieve If you have others that you think I should hear or appreciate, could/would you please offer specific examples/songs of their play to help me to better appreciate them? THANK YOU! Please, PLEASE, PLEASE do not recommend Neil Peart. I do not consider him a member of the "classic" 1967-1976 era of Progressive Rock music. |
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Okay. I am duly impressed. I don't know why I've never listened to Of Queues and Cures from a drumming/percussion/rhythm perspective before. (I've always been searching for the melodies.) THANKS! |
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Aren't you one, too? I could swear I was just reading posts you made back in 2004, 2006 & 2010! |
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I would pick Jaki Liebezeit here because his drumming was really original and poetic.
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Chester Thompson, here with Weather Report long before his Genesis stint.
Alphonse Mouzon, original drummer for Weather Report. Known mostly for his work as an original member of The Eleventh House with Larry Coryell |
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Chris Cutler & Christian Vander for me
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Ian
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It really hurts to see Keith Moon, John Bonham or Ian Paice missing of a list like this. Wondering what criteria could exclude them in the period mentioned. Progressive Rock? You only have to back and read up the old music papers and their lists to know who was considered top.
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Bill Ward also, wonderful chops.
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There are so many Ian, not necessary as defined here as progressive rock... ie. Ginger Baker.
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It’s a little funny, I feel the exact opposite. When I see people making these type of lists and only ever include the usual suspects...and I think to myself ‘how can it be that folks into prog who’ve been digging the genre for decades..never manage to go past the biggies?’ Then again..this is a personal list from the OP. It’s the drummers he finds the best/choppiest (and none of the drummers you mention played in prog bands) If it was me it’d look something like this: Jaki Liebezeit Mani Neumeier Jerzy Piotrowski Jon Hiseman Giulio Cappiozzo Christian Burchard Aynsley Dunbar Michael Walden Pierre Moerlen Phil Collins |
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I'm not a Bruford or Collins freak, but Bill Bruford and Phil Collins are both top of my prog drummers list, even though I'm not a big fan of their respective solo works.
Oh, and an honourable mention for Ginger Baker and his Air Force too. Edited by Psychedelic Paul - May 19 2021 at 08:25 |
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I second Christian Vander:
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I think Barriemore Barlow is seriously underrated because of the way Ian Anderson composed songs which required Barlow to adapt a more symphonic method of drum style and not the usual rock method. This is evident in a song like "Hunting Girl":
But for more RAWK drumming, check out Barlow's amazing double kick drum footwork on "Minstrel in the Gallery" starting at 2:27: |
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Also John Weathers. Edited by Tapfret - May 19 2021 at 08:49 |
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If you are talking about that time period there was no question that everyone who was into Progressive music would not consider Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin as progressive rock. Your analogy does not make sense. That would mean Aynsley Dunbar is blues or Piere Moerlen who only just started at the back end of the poster's timeframe of 1967-1976 is a great based on what? On his body of work up to 1976? Answer would be no right? It's his later body of work that puts him on your list. So is Pierre Moerlen even applicable to the poster's timeframe?
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Ian Paice is certainly one of the best (and hardest working) hard rock drummers in the business, but he's no prog drummer.
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I guess you could break it down like that...but Aynsley was basically a studio musician that happened to play on a lot of prog albums. I personally think of him as the finest drummer with Zappa. I also adore his playing on Lou Reed’s sole prog album Berlin. Pierre Moerlen’s work in Gong is some of the finest drumming ever featured on any pork album imho. Deep Purple, The Who and Led Zeppelin are (brilliant) bands that at times flirted around with progressive elements and were certainly at the forefront of rock music in the late 60s, but I honestly don’t think of either three as prog rock. A weird analogy: I think The Doors was one of the most progressive bands of the late 60s..and they certainly played rock from time to time, but I don’t think of them as a prog band either. I guess it’s just a matter of stickers in the end Btw Moon the loon, Bonzo and Paice are some of my absolute favourite drummers. I miss that kind of ‘feel’ in most of modern music. |
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I agree, where ever you place them, you can't replace their greatness or should I say uniqueness?
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