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TheLionOfPrague 
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I was checking out how many people listen to the biggest/most iconic prog bands on Spotify, just of curiosity, and these are the numbers in case anyone is interested:
Magma 25.000 Banco del Mutuo 51.000 VDGG 64.000 Harmonium 76.000 Renaissance 93.000 Caravan 104.000 PFM 108.000 Gentle Giant 120.000 Camel 234.000 Porcupine Tree 546.000 Opeth 748.000 Emerson Lake & Palmer 754.000 King Crimson 786.000 Marillion 1.243.000 Dream Theater 1.345.000 Jethro Tull 1.568.000 Yes 2.876.000 Tool 3.200.000 Rush 4.116.000 Genesis 6.341.000 Pink Floyd 14.362.000 Obviously, take Genesis' numbers with a grain of salt for obvious reasons. In fact, same for Yes, as 4 out of their top 10 most listened to (including #1) songs are from the 80's, but well, at least it's still less than half. All of the most listened to songs by Genesis are post-Hackett. What caught my attention the most is that Van der Graaf are so low, given they are/were more successful than others of the ones that have more listeners. Also, that Jethro has a farily higher amount than contemporaries like Crimson and ELP, given that these bands are from the same time period and they don't have a pop era inflating their numbers like Yes and Genesis. And that Dream Theater's amount is signifcantly higher than Porcupine Tree and Opeth's. |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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...And are we at all surprised by these numbers, PA? Do these people know Rush is/isn't prog depending on the season?  |
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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nick_h_nz
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Posted: June 03 2021 at 01:17 |
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Those figures alone only tell one tale, too. If you take into account how long the bands have been represented on Spotify, it possibly paints a different picture.
For example, while some of the band listed have probably been on the service since it began, or soon after, Tool had long resisted having their albums available on streaming services, and relented only in August 2019. So they are in third place in your list, which means all those streams have occurred in less than two years. King Crimson also held out for years, and started putting titles onto Spotify in 2017, with the intent of having everything on the service for their 50th anniversary in 2019. In terms of the sheer amount of streams over such a small period, Tool are probably the number one streaming prog band on Spotify, rather than third as presented here. |
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rogerthat
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The numbers prove Rush isn't prog at all.
 How can a prog rock band have those numbers? |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Rush was that late 80's/early 90's supergroup featuring Ted Nugent, correct?
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rogerthat
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You got it!
 Guns N Roses circa 1991 used to open for them, that's how big they were. Yeah, totally not prog.Edited by rogerthat - June 03 2021 at 02:36 |
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TheLionOfPrague
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This is the amount of listeners per month the artist has, NOT the total amount of streams. In the former the amount of time they've been on the platform doesn't matter. In the latter, yes.
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nick_h_nz
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Posted: June 03 2021 at 08:04 |
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^ Got it! Thanks! 👍🏻
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Prog or not prog (that's an opinion), we should be applauding the fact that these bands are listed in the PA database and some are getting millions of streams per month. It means the music we love is not dying.....but yet we self implode that fact because of a label
 .I'm not surprised at all with the numbers. I would guess they have been increasing somewhat with the revival of physical media, mainly records, that people will stream something before buying a physical media. Lets face it, the first two groups of bands are not very accessible musically. Only hard core progressive music fans will stream that, the more common prog lite fan will listen a few times and probably not ever again.
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Posted: June 03 2021 at 10:21 |
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Those numbers seem to jibe quite well with overall sales and pop culture significance.
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Posted: June 03 2021 at 10:26 |
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Since I don't use these services, like Spotify or Pandora, I don't really care. They make music accessible, but music does not sell due to these sites, at a high cost for the artists, who don't really get paid for their music.
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  Hi, If you divide every one of those numbers by 1,000, you get the number of PA folks and what they listen to? My main issue with Spotify and other places that do similar things, is that the suggestions they often make is to list groups that have higher numbers, since it SHOWS to someone (not you and I, right?) that Band X is really good, and you should listen to it, even if your click only lasts less than a minute! IF, by chance, those numbers factored the amount of time each click stayed there, you would LIKELY get a much more important number in regards to listeners. As an example, a show I did only had 25 feeds on stream (Real Audio license in 1999) and we had a log on the listeners ... didn't have exactly a million, but the one thing that was interesting was that we had an average of over 16 minutes, which I thought was strange ... but my show was not a "radio-variety" show but a show dedicated to a band, or a set of bands ... so Caravan had a show with 2 hours, Hawkwind had 2 hours, Man/Help Yourself/Neutrons had almost 3 hours, ECM had 2 hours, and so on, mostly stuff that was about SHOWING THE BAND, and its quality ... and no I did not do Genesis or Yes at all ... there already were enough folks with the CD's by that time! I stuck with the lesser known stuff that was progressive. I'm concerned with how we use "numbers" that more often than not are slanted towards a show of "high numbers" without a proper explanation about the listenership ... although hearing you say that most of the Genesis numbers were on their later years, when they were not "progressive", or Yes, when it seemed that most of the listeners only liked the early stuff! Just strange, and now you know why I distrust numbers and specially articles telling us that some of these numbers "represent" the fame and fortune of a band ... and in the end, we are not helping folks understand and appreciate a lot of great bands with low numbers that deserve a listen ... but how you gonna get a DT fan to listen to Banco, PFM, VdGG and others? Are we doing our best in helping them understand the importance of music that is different, that CREATED PROGRESSIVE MUSIC? Cold day in hell that DT will do one piece by Banco, or VdGG ... because they have no ear for it!
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Think Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford are well aware of these numbers which is why Steve has never been invited back into the fold for a tour
 --got to keep up the lifestyle.
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Actually I don't agree with the OP's statement about VDGG. They really were not that popular anywhere except Italy. Everywhere else they were more or less a cult band. GG were a cult band most places too but at one point in the US almost cracked into the mainstream and had a few albums in the charts. VDGG didn't chart at all in the US and rarely even played here. Still, I don't deny their influence or popularity among prog fans. Camel seem to be fairly known these days but I suspect that's at least partly because Mikael from Opeth has cited them as a big influence. I wonder how many of their younger fans would know about them if it wasn't for that.
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Growing up I never heard or read about VdGG or GG or Camel....and I read quite a lot of music mags back in the day. I never heard of them till probably the late 90's.
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Here's some more (no of course this isn't everyone either ;) )
Salem Hill -121 Djam Karet - 256 Quidam -570 White Willow -684 After Crying -719 Solaris -890 Glass Hammer -938 Anglagard -1,142 Sagrado Caracao Da Terra -1,149 The Tea Club -1,236 Anyone's Daughter -1,459 Univers Zero -1,567 Carpe Diem -1,711 National Health -1,906 Echolyn -1,952 Isildur's Bane -2,142 Happy the Man - 2,427 SBB -2,476 Moon Safari -2,914 Karmakanic -3,336 Novalis -3,364 Osanna -3,374 Bruford -3,576 Jordsjo -3,808 Ash Ra Tempel -4,015 Henry Cow -4,386 Magic Pie -4,701 Crack the Sky -5,244 Grobschnitt -5,572 Sleepytime Gorilla Museum -5,582 Starcastle -6,822 The Tangent - 7,856 Kaipa -8,874 Agitation Free -8,895 Wobbler -8,987 Hatfield and the North -9,864 Gryphon -14,795 Anekdoten -18,764 U.K. -22,194 Arena -22,424 Beardfish -22,391 The Flower Kings - 24,307 Transatlantic -25,516 Mostly Autumn -25,784 Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe (ABWH)- 30,083 Big Big Train - 30,971 Threshold -31,357 Spock's Beard -31,405 Nektar -33,621 Pavlov's Dog -38,342 IQ - 40,401 Le Orme -43,510 Goblin -46,883 Amon Duul II -48,326 Eloy- 50,774 Ozric Tentacles - 58,991 Gong -61,832 Soft Machine -69,628 Strawbs -77,611 Klaatu -86,048 Renaissance -93,039 Steve Hackett -93,759 New Trolls -97,919 Caravan -105,229 Thank You Scientist -123,982 Pain of Salvation -137,301 Riverside -176,713 Between the Buried and Me -181,786 Hawkwind -183,857 Mr. Bungle -195,201 Haken - 215,578 Leprous -253,484 Barclay James Harvest -340,521 Tangerine Dream -348,148 The Mars Volta - 425,587 Focus - 435,308 Jean Michel Jarre -595,469 Opeth -742,695 Traffic -849,293 Caravan -105,229 Saga -125,131 Rick Wakeman -190,653 King Crimson -788,496 (different figure than OP) Ambrosia -928,945 Marillion -1,245,137 Mastodon -1,289,081 Frank Zappa - 1,291,796 Dream Theater -1,344,346 King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard -1,365,438 Kraftwerk -1,191,870 Asia- 1,535,869 Mike Oldfield -1,998,827 The Moody Blues -2,166,411 Roxy Music -2,871,766 Yes -2,883,853 Alan Parson's Project -2,935,667 Kate Bush -3,878,781 Styx -4,192,032 Peter Gabriel - 4,402,820 Kansas -7,159,550 Supertramp -7,342,076 Muse -10,585,585 Radiohead - 12,721,884 A few fusion bands for good measure: Secret Oyster -2,061 Kraan -6,212 (close to fusion anyway) Passport -9,968 Dixie Dregs -19,440 Brand X -30,306 The Brecker Brothers -42,036 Mahavishnu Orchestra -111,485 Return to Forever -127,377 Weather Report -266,896 Pat Metheny -540,665 Herbie Hancock -1,779,238 Miles Davis -2,067,339 Steely Dan -5,192,216 Chicago -7,085,537 Santana -8,581,374 Ok, that took me a long time and was a lot of work. No, it's not perfect and not everyone will think all of those are prog but most(if not all) are either related in some way or on this site(in many cases both). Also, while I tried to make it pretty complete I apologize if I left out your favorite band or artist(not counting those on the original post). Also, I could not find Can, Pendragon, Triumvirat, Deus Ex Machina, Area, Ange, Pulsar, Egg and maybe a few others on spotify. I can only hope that if nothing else some of you will discover some "new" bands from my list. Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - June 08 2021 at 11:46 |
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Yeah..I have a good amount of friends who listens to a wide variety of pork..but they do so over vinyl. I figure most of the newcomers to the genre do so via the old school route. There’s no magic in streaming..yet you sense a ‘pseudo-connection’ to the olden days when you pop on an LP.
The numbers almost never add up - especially when you count in the human factor. I do however feel that this list of Spotify’s perfectly illustates how big The Floyd is. Add in all those vinyl spinners and they’ll still end up on top. |
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There are some fairly large numbers from prog related and borderline prog acts. I'm sure this is a good thing, but I wonder how many of these bands attract the more adventurous listeners deeper into the prog umbrella and eventually find themselves here at PA? Queen - 37,848,799 The Beatles - 24,505,689 Metallica - 17,165,927 David Bowie - 16,402,143 Led Zeppelin - 16,080,664 ELO - 10,973,003 Muse - 10,585,585 Black Sabbath - 8,781,377 Deep Purple - 6,820,869 Talking Heads - 6,654,400 Iron Maiden - 6,297,747 Blue Oyster Cult - 4,652,202 10cc - 3,755,941 Rainbow - 2,443,089 Golden Earring - 1,901,735 Primus - 1,498,142 Ambrosia - 928,945 Phish - 642,332 Jean-Michel Jarre - 595,469 Yngwie Malmsteen - 557,972 Triumph - 388,989 Fairport Convention - 352,751 Wishbone Ash - 244,641
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Since I don't use Spotify can't check myself. But out of curiosity which artist (any artist not prog) gets the absolute highest number of hits? Curious about what the world listens to the most nowadays.
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I'm going to guess at Taylor Swift....
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