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progaardvark
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Marillion
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Earl of Mar
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Marillion. I like PW but the sound is terrible. Hated the production when I bought it on day of release and after LP, CD , remastered CD I still hated the bloody sound. Bring back Terry Brown.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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I listened to both last evening, and it's definitely Marillion.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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richardh
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The second side of Misplaced Childhood is sublime , especially Blind Curve which is quite shocking for all the right reasons! I am a fan of Power Windows though and Manhattan Project is also well up there! I think both were quite progressive in their own way.
It's generally assumed that ''progressive'' refers to a style and sound but Keith Emerson ventured that it could be applied to the musical structure. Chorus, Verse and repeat ad nauseum is not progressive. Overall Misplaced Childhood builds to a climax and has a concept. Power Windows is more a bunch of songs with a very loose concept, so Misplaced Childhood is probably the correct answer.
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essexboyinwales
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I think the OP was asking which album was more of a progression from each band's previous album, NOT which is more "progressive/prog". But I could be wrong....
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chopper
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Seems pretty clear to me "Which of these two 1985 records do you find to be more progressive,"
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nick_h_nz
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Doesn’t seem that way at all from the OP, or even the poll question. 🤔
For me, it was notable that the word “progressive” was chosen as the descriptor, rather than prog - hence my reply:
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essexboyinwales
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Like I said, I could be wrong I think it was his later post that made me wonder, where he was mentioning definitions of progressive or prog. I think my head then thought he was asking about the 2 bands' respective progressions. As you were....
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Sacro_Porgo
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So I wasn't talking about which one furthered it's respective band's progression more, but that is definitely a cool way to look at it! I've never heard any of the rest of Marillion's catalogue, so it would be interesting to me to hear whether people think Misplaced Childhood was a big leap forward breaking a lot of new ground for them or not. I think Power Windows was a step or two beyond the next logical step after Grace Under Pressure for Rush, though not as explosive a step as Fly By Night after Rush, or Permanent Waves after Hemispheres. What I meant as best I can describe it is which album better fits your own personal definition of the term "progressive," whether that definition has to do with a particular style of composition and playing, or whether it has more to do with pushing the envelope forward, or even if that means the album has more progressive politics! Whatever your definition is, that's what I'm hoping to find out with this thread, and I thought these two albums from 1985 were a pretty good gauge of what side of the spectrum of definitions one leans more towards.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Cylli Kat (0fficial)
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Could not have said it any better than that. |
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geekfreak
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Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
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Rick1
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I only saw Rush once - on the Power Windows tour - dreadful waste of money. Marillion doing Misplaced Childhood at the MK Bowl was a completely different story...
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Psychedelic Paul
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Another misplaced vote for Marillion.
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