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    Posted: June 24 2021 at 15:41
.....Progressive Rock Albums

Yes another Top list LOL. For the most part I really like the list, have not delved deep enough to make any waves on the ranking though. Thoughts, impressions...........?
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Nice to see Khan and Coheed and Cambria make the cut. Fairly predictable with the majority from the 70's. Missing Kansas, Dream Theater, Steely Dan, several others. Noticed no Jazz Rock/Fusion is considered prog, which I agree with.
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decent list.  My happiest surprise is the inclusion of "Adonis" by ANYONE'S DAUGHTER, though I think the guitar work is more Latimer than Hackett.  Then again, when those are the comparisons, who's complaining.
Also love that they have "Solar Music Live" by GROBSCHNITT, a rare live album that is truly the go to album for a band, and also a rare example of a guitar driven symphonic album.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2021 at 18:05
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

decent list.  My happiest surprise is the inclusion of "Adonis" by ANYONE'S DAUGHTER, though I think the guitar work is more Latimer than Hackett.  Then again, when those are the comparisons, who's complaining.
Also love that they have "Solar Music Live" by GROBSCHNITT, a rare live album that is truly the go to album for a band, and also a rare example of a guitar driven symphonic album.
Adonis was one I was happy to see on the list also...
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Pretty interesting but no Krautrock, Berlin school or avant.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Noticed no Jazz Rock/Fusion is considered prog, which I agree with.

WHAT?! Will! You're not serious, are you? You mean when RTF, George Benson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Jean-Luc Ponty, Pat Metheny Group, or The Soft Machine were out touring in the 1970s you weren't as excited to see them as you were for Tull, ELP, Yes, and Floyd? I know I was (except The Softs: that Hendrix tour was before my time.)





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^Jazz and fusion are hard to beat for me, but I don't consider it prog. Yeah, I'm different.

I've seen Metheny, Holdsworth, Ponty, Elektric Band, Bruford, Marsalis, and plenty of home grown jazz bands.
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I quite enjoyed reading through that list. Especially interested in now keeping my eyes out for at least three or four albums I'd never even heard of before that sounded really compelling! I had the top 5 pegged as soon as I got to it. Interesting to see certain "essential albums" missing. Aqualung, 2112, and ELP's debut to name a few. But then I'm sure they wanted to keep the number of repeat bands down to make way for the aforementioned albums I'd never heard of. So I thought it was a pretty good list, at least for my purposes (more discovery and a bit of critical thinking about what beats what). Glad they didn't do a cop out and put ITCOTCK first, because it's really not a very compelling story to say prog led off with it's best album and everything else was just downhill.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Pretty interesting but no Krautrock, Berlin school or avant.
There's Grobschnitt
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2021 at 01:50
Nice list! I guess that their definition of prog is a bit more narrow than PA's, which is fine with me. Never heard of The Most Serene Republic, so will give that one a listen. A couple of albums that I haven't heard in ages (Heldon e.g.)... And it is nice to see that it seems less Anglo-saxon centered than the recent RS top 200.
Otherwise, my top 50 would of course be a bit different (esp. The Mars Volta wouldn't be in there, and Harmonium not that high...), but what they say in the intro is very true:
Quote "All of this to say: In some ways, it's easy to pick the Top 50 Progressive Rock Albums. Many of the entries toward the top of our list are unimpeachable. But also: It's almost impossible. There's so much, in such varied styles, that you automatically exclude hundreds of essential titles by imposing an arbitrary numerical limit. Even if you disagree with some of these choices and let's face it, you're gonna we hope you'll approach our list as a platform for discovery. And isn't "discovery" the point of prog anyway?"

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2021 at 02:35
De-Loused and Per Un Amico making the top ten actually gives this list some credibility for me as then it's not just UK seventies stuff + Rush. I also like the fact that Brain Salad Surgery is in the 50 , often derided wrongly imo.
Of course we can always come up with different lists and there are plenty of notable absentees (album wise) but all the important bands are well represented.


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Definitely an interesting list for me - I have never tried any of the Italian stuff, and the Harmonium album sounds interesting.  Also Grobschnitt is another I've not tried.

CTTE top though?  Hmmmmm Disapprove Confused Ouch LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VianaProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2021 at 02:48
It's not my list but it's very interesting. I liked to see some names on it, such as, "Stand By" of Heldon, "Arbeit Macht Frei" of Area, "Danger Mony" of U.K., "Space Shanty" of Khan, "Halloween" of Pulsar and "Solar Music: Live" of Grobschnitt, names that usualy don't appear on the usual prog lists, despite they deserve or not can be considered as some of the best 50 best prog albums ever.

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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Definitely an interesting list for me - I have never tried any of the Italian stuff, and the Harmonium album sounds interesting.  Also Grobschnitt is another I've not tried.

CTTE top though?  Hmmmmm Disapprove Confused Ouch LOL
so they agree with us then?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hercules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2021 at 06:33
All I can say is that my top 50 would be extremely different.
In fact, 34 of the albums listed wouldn't make my top 100 or, in some cases, even my top 1000.
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Pretty good list but is Relayer on it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2021 at 06:59
Another list based on who knows what. Good albums in here though, but as usual, I don't agree with the order and contents.
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Thumbs Up Albums I like and approve of in the Progressive Rock Top 50
Question  Albums I haven't yet heard in the Progressive Rock Top 50 
Ouch  Albums I dislike and disapprove of in the Progressive Rock Top 50

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Thumbs Up 01. Yes - Close to the Edge (1972)
Thumbs Up 02. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (1969)
Thumbs Up 03. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
Thumbs Up 04. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
Thumbs Up 05. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick (1972)
Question  06. Rush - Moving Pictures (1981)
Thumbs Up 07. Genesis - Foxtrot (1972)
Thumbs Up 08. Yes - Fragile (1971)
Question  09. The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium  (2003)
Question  10. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico (1972)
Thumbs Up 11. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here (1975)
Question  12. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (1975)
Thumbs Up 13. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (1973)
Thumbs Up 14. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974)
Ouch  15. King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic (1973)
Question  16. Gentle Giant - Octopus (1972)
Thumbs Up 17. King Crimson - Red (1974)
Question  18. Tool - Lateralus (2001)
Question  19. Rush - Hemispheres (1978)
Thumbs Up 20. Yes - The Yes Album (1971)
Question  21. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sona Nato Libero (1973)
Question  22. Gong - You (1974)
Question  23. Ange - Au-dela du delire (1974)
Question  24. Le Orme - Felona e Sorona (1973)
Question  25. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention - One Size Fits All (1975)
Question  26. The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute (2005)
Ouch  27. King Crimson - Discipline (1981)
Question  28. Grobschnitt - Solar Music: Live (1978)
Thumbs Up 29. Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff (1975)
Thumbs Up 30. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (1973)
Question  31. Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh (1973)
Question  32. Pulsar - Halloween (1977)
Question  33. Carmen - Fandangos in Space (1973)
Question  34. Il Balleto di Bronzo - Ys (1971)
Thumbs Up 35. Camel - The Snow Goose (1975)
Thumbs Up 36. Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (1973)
Thumbs Up 37. Khan - Space Shanty (1972)
Thumbs Up 38. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (1975)
Thumbs Up 39. Jethro Tull - Songs from the Wood (1977)
Thumbs Up 40. U.K. - Danger Money (1979)
Question  41. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei (1973)
Question  42. Coheed and Cambria - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth 3 (2003)
Question  43. Ambrosia - Ambrosia (1975)
Question  44. Gentle Giant - Free Hand (1975)
Thumbs Up 45. Porcupine Tree - Deadwing (2005)
Thumbs Up 46. Gnidrolog - Lady Lake (1972)
Question  47. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (1979)
Question  48. Heldon - Stand By (1979)
Question  49. The Most Serene Republic - Population (2007)
Ouch  50. Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North (1974)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2021 at 08:04
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Pretty good list but is Relayer on it?

nope but then a larger bone of contention would be Pawn Hearts and UK's debut imo.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Pretty interesting but no Krautrock, Berlin school or avant.
There's Grobschnitt

Yeah but that's not Krautrock is it? No CAN or Amon Duul II.
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