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Here's one I found very interesting. Dream Theatre don't pass! Out of their 14 (soon to be 15) studio albums there's not a single streak of 5 that stays above the 3.50 mark on PA. The closest we get it from Scenes From A Memory through Octavarium, but that streak is mercilessly cast aside by Falling Into Infinity on one end and Systematic Chaos on the other.

Falling Into Infinity ~ 3.33
Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory ~ 4.30
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence ~ 4.14
Train Of Thought ~ 3.60
Octavarium ~3.67
Systematic Chaos ~ 3.31

Failling Into Infinity also cuts off the double whammy of Images And Words and Awake from continuing. A Dramatic Turn Of Events is a dramatic turn of score, hitting 3.84, but the self titled and The Astonishing ruin any chance this has at starting a new streak with Distance Over Time.
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Interesting thread. Here are my personal picks (even though these are not my personal ratings) except the obvious ones like Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, etc.

And you can see my 5-stars album in blue.

Big Big Train
4.17 - The Underfall Yard - 2009
4.20 - English Electric (Part One) - 2012
4.11 - English Electric (Part Two) - 2013
4.02 - Folklore - 2016
3.99 - Grimspound - 2017

Dixie Dregs
3.64 - The Great Spectacular - 1975
3.78 - Free Fall - 1977
4.18 - What If - 1978
3.77 - Night Of The Living Dregs - 1979
3.81 - Dregs Of The Earth - 1980

The Flower Kings
4.03 - Back In The World Of Adventures - 1995
3.76 - Retropolis - 1996
3.93 - Stardust We Are - 1997
3.96 - Flower Power - 1999
3.85 - Space Revolver - 2000

Major Parkinson
3.71 - Major Parkinson - 2008
4.05 - Songs from a Solitary Home - 2010
3.99 - Twilight Cinema - 2014
3.95 - Blackbox - 2017
?.?? - [TBA] - 2021 * yes, I'm cheating, but I'm sure it will be great!

Motorpsycho
3.82 - Heavy Metal Fruit - 2010
4.17 - Motorpsycho & Ståle Storløkken: The Death Defying Unicorn - 2012
3.92 - Still Life With Eggplant - 2013
3.99 - Behind The Sun - 2014
3.86 - Here Be Monsters - 2016

Pain Of Salvation
4.11 - Entropia - 1997
3.91 - One Hour By The Concrete Lake - 1998
4.23 - The Perfect Element - Part 1 - 2000
4.23 - Remedy Lane - 2002
4.09 - Be - 2004

Anthony Phillips
4.06 - The Geese And The Ghost - 1977
3.80 - Wise After The Event - 1978
3.32 - Private Parts & Pieces - 1978
3.04 - Sides - 1979
3.79 - Private Parts & Pieces II - Back To The Pavillion - 1980

P.F.M.
4.34 - Storia Di Un Minuto - 1972
4.40 - Per Un Amico - 1972
4.02 - Photos Of Ghosts - 1973
4.22 - L'Isola Di Niente - 1974
4.02 - The World Became the World - 1974

Steely Dan
3.57 - Can't Buy a Thrill - 1972
4.02 - Countdown to Ecstasy - 1973
3.71 - Pretzel Logic - 1974
3.72 - Katy Lied - 1975
3.75 - The Royal Scam - 1976
4.15 - Aja - 1977
3.69 - Gaucho - 1980

The Tangent
3.99 - The Music That Died Alone - 2003
3.75 - The World That We Drive Through - 2004
3.84 - A Place In The Queue - 2006
3.87 - Not as Good as the Book - 2008
3.74 - Down And Out In Paris And London - 2009 * not sure about this one

Transatlantic
4.07 - SMPT:e - 2000
4.17 - Bridge Across Forever - 2001
4.04 - The Whirlwind - 2009
3.82 - Kaleidoscope - 2014
3.97 - The Absolute Universe - 2021 * any version!

Steven Wilson
4.19 - Grace For Drowning - 2011
4.28 - The Raven That Refused to Sing (and Other Stories) - 2013
4.29 - Hand. Cannot. Erase. - 2015
3.51 - 4 ½ - 2016
3.57 - To the Bone - 2017

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I didn't see anyone mention Renaissance. 
Not sure what the PA ratings are on all of these but five pretty solid albums. 

  • Ashes are Burning
  • Turn of the Cards
  • Scheherazade
  • Novella
  • A Song for All Seasons



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That BBT & PFM are very strong.
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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

How about Kansas?

Kansas ~ 4.00
Song For America ~ 4.14
Masque ~ 3.66
Leftoverture ~ 4.22
Point Of Know Return ~ 4.17

and indeed if they put out two more highly rated albums they'll have a second streak of five starting with 2000's Somewhere To Elsewhere.

I see no problem with this streak. Spirit and Freaks are fine Kansas records!

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Voyager:
Univers (2007) - 3.87
I Am The Revolution (2009) - 4.16
The Meaning of I (2011) - 3.96
V (2014) - 3.92
Ghost Mile (2017) - 3.84

Symphony X:
The Divine Wings of Tragedy (1997) - 4.13
Twilight in Olympus (1998) - 3.75
V: The New Mythology Suite (2000) - 4.14
The Odyssey (2002) - 3.96
Paradise Lost (2007) - 3.80

Vanden Plas:
The God Thing (1997) - 3.88
Far Off Grace (1999) - 3.84
Beyond Daylight (2002) - 4.01
Christ 0 (2006) - 3.93
The Seraphic Clockwork (2010) - 3.80





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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

To round out the Big 6 (which I was doing semi unintentionally just looking through the top albums of the PA top 100 list), here's Emerson, Lake, And Palmer. Similar to Pink Floyd, there is one way you can cheat them in, and I'm actually partial to this. As far as their standard studio discography goes, they just miss the mark with that opening 4 albums run:

Emerson, Lake, And Palmer ~ 4.23
Tarkus ~ 4.06
Trilogy ~ 4.14
Brain Salad Surgery ~ 4.14
Works Vol. 1 ~ ....2.94 ouch

BUT! If you toss in Pictures At An Exhibition, sitting between the debut and Tarkus, you can turn that four album run into five. Pictures doesn't pass the 4.00 mark, but it manages to get close with a score of 3.88. Why am I more partial to this cheat than to cheating with Pink Floyd? Typically, live albums shouldn't really count for these discussions, not because they're recorded live, but because they don't feature any new material, or perhaps a single new song or new cover. However, Pictures is an exception to this tendency, as the whole album features ELP playing material which cannot be heard on any of their studio releases: a massive rendition of the orchestral piece by the same name, but totally reinterpreted ELP style (with lyrics and vocals!). To many ELP fans it functions as an album much the same way as any of their studio recordings, despite being live and despite being (technically) a massive cover. So I'm for including it. With Floyd on the other hand, one would have to play by a different set of rules which would negate soundtrack albums on account of their soundtrackiness. Presumably any rule which would negate soundtracks, despite being composed of new material and presented much the same as albums proper, would also negate live albums, even Pictures At An Exhibition. So I think it comes down to whether you'd like Floyd to have the 5 album run or ELP. I'll go with ELP, since they don't get enough love for what they did.
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Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

I didn't see anyone mention Renaissance. 
Not sure what the PA ratings are on all of these but five pretty solid albums. 

  • Ashes are Burning
  • Turn of the Cards
  • Scheherazade
  • Novella
  • A Song for All Seasons


I checked on them last night without posting about it, and I believe the scores show that streak passes. It may add Prologue onto the front end as well.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

To round out the Big 6 (which I was doing semi unintentionally just looking through the top albums of the PA top 100 list), here's Emerson, Lake, And Palmer. Similar to Pink Floyd, there is one way you can cheat them in, and I'm actually partial to this. As far as their standard studio discography goes, they just miss the mark with that opening 4 albums run:

Emerson, Lake, And Palmer ~ 4.23
Tarkus ~ 4.06
Trilogy ~ 4.14
Brain Salad Surgery ~ 4.14
Works Vol. 1 ~ ....2.94 ouch

BUT! If you toss in Pictures At An Exhibition, sitting between the debut and Tarkus, you can turn that four album run into five. Pictures doesn't pass the 4.00 mark, but it manages to get close with a score of 3.88. Why am I more partial to this cheat than to cheating with Pink Floyd? Typically, live albums shouldn't really count for these discussions, not because they're recorded live, but because they don't feature any new material, or perhaps a single new song or new cover. However, Pictures is an exception to this tendency, as the whole album features ELP playing material which cannot be heard on any of their studio releases: a massive rendition of the orchestral piece by the same name, but totally reinterpreted ELP style (with lyrics and vocals!). To many ELP fans it functions as an album much the same way as any of their studio recordings, despite being live and despite being (technically) a massive cover. So I'm for including it. With Floyd on the other hand, one would have to play by a different set of rules which would negate soundtrack albums on account of their soundtrackiness. Presumably any rule which would negate soundtracks, despite being composed of new material and presented much the same as albums proper, would also negate live albums, even Pictures At An Exhibition. So I think it comes down to whether you'd like Floyd to have the 5 album run or ELP. I'll go with ELP, since they don't get enough love for what they did.
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For some of those mentioning PFM. Why do you think both Photos Of Ghosts and Per Un Amico should be counted, even though they're mostly the same album with different lyrics? Same question for The World Became The World and L'Isola Di Niente?
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I don't think I saw The Moody Blues listed yet.
This passes Sacro_Porgo's 3.50 ratings test as well.

Days of Future Passed 4.19
In Search of the Lost Cord 3.85
On The Threshold of a Dream 3.77
To Our Children's Children's Children 4.09
A Question Of Balance 3.53


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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Voyager:
Univers (2007) - 3.87
I Am The Revolution (2009) - 4.16
The Meaning of I (2011) - 3.96
V (2014) - 3.92
Ghost Mile (2017) - 3.84

Symphony X:
The Divine Wings of Tragedy (1997) - 4.13
Twilight in Olympus (1998) - 3.75
V: The New Mythology Suite (2000) - 4.14
The Odyssey (2002) - 3.96
Paradise Lost (2007) - 3.80

Vanden Plas:
The God Thing (1997) - 3.88
Far Off Grace (1999) - 3.84
Beyond Daylight (2002) - 4.01
Christ 0 (2006) - 3.93
The Seraphic Clockwork (2010) - 3.80


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Oh, and BTW, I think ELP's Works Vol 1 is under rated here. it deserves a 3.50 or better rating. There is a ton of good material on that album.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Oh, and BTW, I think ELP's Works Vol 1 is under rated here. it deserves a 3.50 or better rating. There is a ton of good material on that album.
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I've thought of another one that hasn't been mentioned yet, and PA appears to mostly disagree since neither "Product" nor "Do They Hurt?" crosses the 3.50 threshold, but I think all of Brand X's first five albums are masterpieces (and honestly, even "Is There Anything About?" in my opinion deserves much better than the 2.83 that this site's merciless userbase awarded it...Cry)
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Oh, and BTW, I think ELP's Works Vol 1 is under rated here. it deserves a 3.50 or better rating. There is a ton of good material on that album.
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Going by PA ratings and 3.50 threshold, Zappa has a string of 13 from Waka/Jawaka through Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch.

Eloy has a string of 9 from Inside to Time to Turn.

Banco almost made it, but Garofano Rosso is rated 3.49

It's too bad we can't do some sort of SQL query on the database to find all such strings, not that I would remember how to do it since I haven't worked with SQL queries since the 1990s.
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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

For some of those mentioning PFM. Why do you think both Photos Of Ghosts and Per Un Amico should be counted, even though they're mostly the same album with different lyrics? Same question for The World Became The World and L'Isola Di Niente?
I guess you're right, we shouldn't count them as different albums, but they are so good... Big smile

Anyway, I just did a comparison between those PFM albums, and here is what I found:


Photos of Ghosts is like Per un amico with English lyrics (except for Il banchetto) + a new recording of E festa from their first album. But there are several notable differences.

1. River of Life has an outro, while Appena un po' has an intro
2. Celebration feels like a radio edit of E festa, but is a new recording
3. Photos of Ghosts and Per un amico are identical, except for the new lyrics
4. Old Rain is a new instrumental piece, only available on this album
5. Il banchetto is of course identical on both albums
6. Mr. 9 'till 5 and Generale! are identical, with added lyrics
7. Promenade the Puzzle and Geranio are identical, except for the new lyrics and the ending


The World Became the World is like L'isola di niente with English lyrics + a new recording of Impressioni di settembre from their first album.

1. The Mountain and L'isola di niente are identical, except for the new lyrics
2. Just Look Away and Dolcissima Maria are identical, except for the new lyrics
3. The World Became the World and Impressioni di settembre are very different, not even in the same key! and the ending...
4. Four Holes in the Ground and La luna nuova are identical, except for the new lyrics
5. Is My Face on Straight? is of course identical on both albums
6. Have Your Cake and Beat It and Via Lumière are identical


And the running order for both albums are different.

You may already know all of that, but it was fun to do these comparisons.


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Godspeed You Black Emperor have seven albums, the lowest is rated 3.70.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

For some of those mentioning PFM. Why do you think both Photos Of Ghosts and Per Un Amico should be counted, even though they're mostly the same album with different lyrics? Same question for The World Became The World and L'Isola Di Niente?
I guess you're right, we shouldn't count them as different albums, but they are so good... Big smile

Anyway, I just did a comparison between those PFM albums, and here is what I found:


Photos of Ghosts is like Per un amico with English lyrics (except for Il banchetto) + a new recording of E festa from their first album. But there are several notable differences.

1. River of Life has an outro, while Appena un po' has an intro
2. Celebration feels like a radio edit of E festa, but is a new recording
3. Photos of Ghosts and Per un amico are identical, except for the new lyrics
4. Old Rain is a new instrumental piece, only available on this album
5. Il banchetto is of course identical on both albums
6. Mr. 9 'till 5 and Generale! are identical, with added lyrics
7. Promenade the Puzzle and Geranio are identical, except for the new lyrics and the ending


The World Became the World is like L'isola di niente with English lyrics + a new recording of Impressioni di settembre from their first album.

1. The Mountain and L'isola di niente are identical, except for the new lyrics
2. Just Look Away and Dolcissima Maria are identical, except for the new lyrics
3. The World Became the World and Impressioni di settembre are very different, not even in the same key! and the ending...
4. Four Holes in the Ground and La luna nuova are identical, except for the new lyrics
5. Is My Face on Straight? is of course identical on both albums
6. Have Your Cake and Beat It and Via Lumière are identical


And the running order for both albums are different.

You may already know all of that, but it was fun to do these comparisons.

I've never actually listened to the english versions, so that was interesting to read. It appears they're a little bit more different than I thought. How good is Old Rain? I'd never looked closely enough to realize there's a brand new piece on Photos Of Ghosts, and that plus the other couple differences you mentioned makes me wonder if maybe I should pick it up. I've run across it probably half a dozen times in record stores but put it down because I wanted to hold out for Per Un Amico, hard as that is to find.
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