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Earl of Mar 
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 Topic: Starless vs. The Cinema ShowPosted: October 21 2022 at 15:04 |
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very tough. Starless is a piece of music that is truly superb. However TCS has given me mores smiles over the last almost half century.
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digdug
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Posted: October 18 2022 at 07:54 |
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Starless for me
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Prog On!
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geekfreak
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Posted: October 18 2022 at 07:23 |
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Absolutely as to be Starless
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 21 2021 at 20:05 |
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I like both better live. Cinema show gets a bit more of life on live versions, specially on the keyboard solo part. Starless, the first versions I heard were the live ones (which were actually played before the studio one), and for me, that intro melody was made to be played with a violin (even though I don't have proof, I believe it to be actually true), and doesn't sound quiet as beautiful with the guitars... and the same melody reprise at the end, I find it more powerful with the electric guitars than with the sax (though perhaps it's necessary to hear the right live version, for me, the one on Collectable King Crimson vol 1, live in Mainz disc). |
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Logan
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Posted: August 21 2021 at 10:02 |
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It's quite interesting to see the diversity of opinion here when it comes to the claims, or it would be if it weren't so par for the course. There could be some good debate here if it didn't ultimately boil down to taste and personal bias. De gustibus non est disputandum.
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Posted: August 21 2021 at 09:46 |
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Starless narrowly over The Cinema Show. Very difficult choice as they're both amazing songs.
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Posted: August 21 2021 at 04:40 |
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This.
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richardh
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Posted: August 21 2021 at 04:38 |
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Cinema Show (studio) is fantastic and then comes to a slow stop annoyingly hence why the live version is a must.
Starless - better as a studio piece although John Wetton always did great live versions. Voted for that one.
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 21:32 |
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Exactly this, both are masterpieces but i voted Cinema Show
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 19:37 |
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Cinema Show because it has a flow which I love.
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 19:13 |
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As much as I love both, I must go with Starless. Live version from the 70's.
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 15:29 |
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The Cinema Show. Both songs belong to the best of these bands' respective catalogs.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 15:12 |
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Starless would be one of the first songs I'd choose to introduce someone to both King Crimson and prog. The Cinema Show is great too - probably my third favorite song on Selling England... but it's not Starless
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Sacro_Porgo
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 14:44 |
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To me, Starless is King Crimson's greatest achievement. The Cinema Show is great, Genesis have more outstanding music even on SEBTP.
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 14:01 |
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Both are masterpieces in my subjective judgment, but I voted Starless. |
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 13:23 |
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Starless for me. ^ Paul, Starless is from the album Red.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 13:08 |
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I'm not a fan of the Starless & Bible Black album, but I still prefer Starless to The Cinema Show.
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 12:13 |
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Starless is a masterpiece.
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Earl of Mar
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 09:56 |
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Genesis. However Starless is a tremendous piece of music.
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Posted: August 20 2021 at 08:22 |
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Agree 100%
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