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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 16:13
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:

Originally posted by sularetal sularetal wrote:

 
I don't agree with you. Your definition of art is "Knowing how to play a musical instrument (or sing) and how to write metaphoric lyrics and an ORIGINAL piece of music (not wanting to sound like your favorite band/artist) , regardless of whether or not it is jazz, classical or prog, IS ART."

In my humble opinion art is just about expression. Art is something that is usless really (don't know really how to describe my thoughts in english, sorry). It's something that we create just because we feel like doing it. There is no real purpose (money, fame etc.). Creating a hole on the ground could be a piece of art. What you define as art is the application of previous knowledge. What does "knowing how to play a musical instrument" mean? I could play guitar hitting the chords with my foot. If something nice (either for me or the listener) came out why shouldn't be called art? Just because I didn't use the method most people used in order to express theirselves in the past?



unoriginal music shouI meant art in music. Not art in general. I just don't believe that totally unoriginal music should be considered great. I like "regressive" rock bands like Spock's Beard, because even though they are not entirely original, they do things in a creative and expressive way.

I agree that art in general is about expression. I disagree strongly that art is useless, but I respect your opinion.

If art, which you YOURSELF described as self-expression, did not exist because it is useless, we would not express ourselves, would be living unsophisticated and would not thinking of anything new or innovative. Thus, humans as a race would die out, because we would not "express" ourselves as you have mentioned.

If there was no art or self-expression as you have defined it, we would not express ourselves by creating inventions, civilizations, and we would all be ignorant or even extinct because I believe that lack of expression= lack of original thought and representation of that thought.

Nothing else on earth can think and express those thoughts toward the improvement of life like Humans can, that's why we are the most powerful beings on the planet, or perhaps the universe.

Maybe I'm being too metaphysical or over-dramatic, but I think art is essential to our survival.

 
Here, I totally agree with you. I was sure you were going to take “useless” in a wrong way (and that’s my fault for not explaining really). I meant that art is something that serves no purpose apart from expression. When you buy a painting you can only put it on the wall. That was I wanted to say really. To me art is the only purpose that humans should survive. Apart from art humans have done only wrong. Earth would be a wonderful place if man never existed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 16:17
This thread has a tricky title. "A BOOK, by Sean Trane" would have been a better name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 05:14
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

This thread has a tricky title. "A BOOK, by Sean Trane" would have been a better name.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 09:47
Can you think of a better title for the thread Hugues? I don't like the current one myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2007 at 03:54
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Can you think of a better title for the thread Hugues? I don't like the current one myself.
 
I agree. If I could've, I would've changed the title ages ago, but the first post is James Lee's (back then only him could post as the blog responsible). And this was supposed to be an answer to his blog
 
 
 
 
 
 
Do you think we could combine the two threads??
 
His thread title (the link I give) is perfect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2007 at 10:51
It would mean moving all the posts in this thread individually Hugues, which would corrupt the flow of both threads.
 
How about simply calling this thread The Uncarved Blog, part 2
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2007 at 05:33
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

It would mean moving all the posts in this thread individually Hugues, which would corrupt the flow of both threads.
 
How about simply calling this thread The Uncarved Blog, part 2
 
Could be also. Your idea sounds fine to me.
 
But James' blog has no answers so all it would take is add all of this blog to the other.
 
or adapt the first post of this blog to inclide James' posts as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2007 at 14:15
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2007 at 03:51
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

How's that!
 
 
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