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UncleRust
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Posted: December 23 2021 at 07:08 |
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Yes, I quite agree that would help. Openness to any topic would help in understanding, and possibly appreciating it.
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It is not really about what I view as a type, but rather what any individual would think of. There is likely some variety, I imagine. The way I was thinking, 'type' would probably indicate a genre or some other way of categorizing a specific piece of music. The point I am trying to make is that I know people who intentionally limit their experiences, mostly out of fear or disinterest. That tends to make those specific people a little less interesting to talk to about music.
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What do you regard as a "type" of music? |
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^ Maybe you have to be open to the possibility of hearing certain music in a different way. |
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UncleRust
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Crimson are a great example of a band who combined many styles & Fripp is one of the greats in my opinion.
Personally, I like Metal, Jazz, and Fusion (as well as many other genres). All depends upon mood and whether my wife is likely to judge me harshly at the moment I am putting something on. Growing up, Thelonius Monk had as much influence on me as did Iron Maiden and Yes. When I started learning musical instruments I became obsessed with Al DiMeola and Bill Bruford, but pure enjoyment of any specific music or genre for me is always related to the emotional impact it has on me. My theory - People that listen exclusively to any type of music are either intolerant of things they have not yet experienced or disinterested in music. Doesn't make them bad people necessarily, but they are probably less interesting conversationalists. Edited by UncleRust - December 22 2021 at 16:11 |
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I always felt that Robert Fripp was perhaps the best to combine jazz and metal!! His work on LTIA, S&BB and Red are perfect examples.
I cannot think of another player in his league, although Dream Theater guitarist John Petrucci comes close!!
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Have you heard Exivious?
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I like it all jazz prog metal and beyond, especially any mix of those.
To me it’s all about some degree of uniqueness, preferably combined with some technical perfection, but that is not the most important.
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^ When it comes to covers of this, I prefer this one. In fact, I love this one!
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For the lolz:
Zubatto Syndicate rules. Edited by Mascodagama - December 18 2021 at 03:12 |
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I'm not sure which metal is the topic from OP, but I don't listen to anything extreme like death or black. As far as Progmetal, not as much as I used to but still listen to some of the older material. Bands like Mind Key, Circus Maximus, Pantommind that kinda stuff I still listen to, there are just so many bands that I don't have much time to appreciate them.
And as far as jazz, yea I listen to a lot of it....huge fan of Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers, I much prefer the hard bop, modal stuff from mid late 50s to early 60's. Late 60s into 70s it became more electronic with guitars and electric piano, which that sound does not interest me much.
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As I have said before, Metal is not my favorite genre even though I can enjoy it on occasion and have respect when I hear good musicianship. To me, much of it sounds the same and there are only so many ways you can get that crunchy guitar sound. There is no shame in liking it. I am definitely more of a Jazz/Rock Fusion listener as I am a rocker at base but also need to hear virtuosity. I listen to a lot of straight Jazz. Metal is a kind of folk music in that there are specific characteristics to it. Blues also has some specific characteristics, so I consider it another kind of folk. Even though I like the Blues, I will admit much of it sounds the same. As the OP said, there is an ethos to it. A better word might be aesthetics, for there is a certain artistic perspective that comes with every genre of music. Metal tends towards the raw, the emotional (especially anger), while Jazz tends towards sophistication and the intellect. Does this mean there is no level of sophistication and intellect in Metal? Of course not, but those are secondary to the emotion. Does this mean there is no emotion in Jazz? One cannot say so in all seriousness. It is a matter of what is emphasized.
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Don't really get your drift. There are many of us who equally love jazz and metal and the two mixed together.
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+25 for rounding out that statement in the most metal way possible. And, Mr. Duddick. We all listen to and enjoy different types of music without a required subscription to some perceived aesthetic, as you have implied. However, if there is an "attitude to buy into" in all this, it would appear it is the one you have chosen. |
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I prefer classical music. But sometimes, I listen to Panzerballett (Germany) and Watchtower (USA) for example which put jazz in their metal style.
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so well said. I bet these are questions you (and us) will not get an answer to.
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Have to admit I love the Liquid Tension Experiment and Animals as Leaders albums. Beyond that I haven't explored because I'm not a big fusion , metal or jazz rock fan.
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Dude wtf, I love both fusion and metal, and can hardly find anyone that agrees.
I love Pestilence SPHERES as much as I love Gorguts EROSION and OBSCURA. There's a fine line between technical metal and fusion, and a lot of the classic 70's stuff could legit pass as borderline death metal passages. Lots of Gentle Giant and Yes stuff comes to mind here.
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Edited by Mascodagama - December 17 2021 at 00:28 |
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