Prog metal and jazz

Big jazz and metal fan I particularly like brutal jazz that can be fairly metal

omphaloskepsis wrote: I prefer jazz- everything from Louie Armstrong to Accordo Dei Contrari.    I listen to metal bands like Haken, Dream Theater, Leprous, Opeth, UneXepcT, Sigh, Iapetus, Ahab,  and Riverside.  It's not a deal breaker, but I shy away from death growls.

^ pretty kick ass, interesting infusion of Latin with heavy rock

Dude wtf, I love both fusion and metal, and can hardly find anyone that agrees.

Tapfret wrote: Duddick wrote: I know I’m going to get pilloried for this but I think metal is an attitude you choose to buy into. I personally don’t. There are so many things I dislike about it but each to their own.  Sure, to each their own. You can like whatever you want. What you are more likely to get pilloried for is starting an entire thread without even so much as a summary or abstract to identify what empirical analysis led you to such blanket assertions as, "metal is an attitude you choose to buy into" or "...metal fans are not keen on jazz or fusion..." Do you have a foundation for these statements? Or is it just an arbitrary eye test that leads you to come and take a potshot at fans of a genre outside of your scope of enjoyment?

Mascodagama wrote: Tapfret wrote: Duddick wrote: I know I’m going to get pilloried for this but I think metal is an attitude you choose to buy into. I personally don’t. There are so many things I dislike about it but each to their own.  Sure, to each their own. You can like whatever you want. What you are more likely to get pilloried for is starting an entire thread without even so much as a summary or abstract to identify what empirical analysis led you to such blanket assertions as, "metal is an attitude you choose to buy into" or "...metal fans are not keen on jazz or fusion..." Do you have a foundation for these statements? Or is it just an arbitrary eye test that leads you to come and take a potshot at fans of a genre outside of your scope of enjoyment? Given that Duddick’s only album ratings on PA are for extreme metal bands and are all one star ratings there does seem to be an axe being ground.

+25 for rounding out that statement in the most metal way possible.

And, Mr. Duddick. We all listen to and enjoy different types of music without a required subscription to some perceived aesthetic, as you have implied. However, if there is an "attitude to buy into" in all this, it would appear it is the one you have chosen.

As I have said before, Metal is not my favorite genre even though I can enjoy it on occasion and have respect when I hear good musicianship. To me, much of it sounds the same and there are only so many ways you can get that crunchy guitar sound. There is no shame in liking it. I am definitely more of a Jazz/Rock Fusion listener as I am a rocker at base but also need to hear virtuosity. I listen to a lot of straight Jazz. Metal is a kind of folk music in that there are specific characteristics to it. Blues also has some specific characteristics, so I consider it another kind of folk. Even though I like the Blues, I will admit much of it sounds the same. As the OP said, there is an ethos to it. A better word might be aesthetics, for there is a certain artistic perspective that comes with every genre of music. Metal tends towards the raw, the emotional (especially anger), while Jazz tends towards sophistication and the intellect. Does this mean there is no level of sophistication and intellect in Metal? Of course not, but those are secondary to the emotion. Does this mean there is no emotion in Jazz? One cannot say so in all seriousness. It is a matter of what is emphasized. 

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Zubatto Syndicate rules.

Edited by Mascodagama - December 18 2021 at 03:12