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    Posted: January 07 2022 at 13:10
Hello all! Just posted a little article as part of my co-run blog, titled (provocatively):

1977: A Farewell to Kings? – Reflections on the year punk killed prog rock


Let me know what you think of the article, or any of your own views on the topic!

Cheers,
Xonty


Edited by Xonty - January 07 2022 at 13:12
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2022 at 14:46
"Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It" is not cringeworthy for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2022 at 15:04
^ Not at all, I like that song
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2022 at 15:25
Good informed write.  True of course that Punk had no direct hand in Prog's recession, at least no more than any other new trend that is by nature a reaction against the last one.   What's always amazed me about prog is that it happened with any success at all.   Simpler, more direct music has almost always won the popularity race with few exceptions.  

One of those exceptions was that astounding time in music between the realization of rock as art [Beatles,Beach Boys,Floyd,Zappa,etc.] and the subsequent rejection of it.   It's easy to say it started with the drug culture or the Beatles impact or the advent of new technology,  and it ended with disco or punk or Easy Listening or hard rock.   Or just a new generation (you correctly suggest the significance so-called Glam rock and prog's outright tongue-kissing with it via the Gabriel/Wakeman/Hammill set [Bowie,Queen,Elton John?].   I still don't clearly understand why ridiculously complex music became appealing at a time when it should not have (let's not forget Yes was huge in their time, and Tull's A Passion Play briefly charted at #1 when the Carpenters and Barbara Streisand were still kings), or why it fell out of favor so suddenly.  





Edited by Atavachron - January 07 2022 at 15:26
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

  I still don't clearly understand why ridiculously complex music became appealing at a time when it should not have (let's not forget Yes was huge in their time, and Tull's A Passion Play briefly charted at #1 when the Carpenters and Barbara Streisand were still kings), or why it fell out of favor so suddenly.  

TAAB also went to #1 the year previous. But with rock, prog was a build-up, layers upon layers, from Chuck Berry to The Beatles all the way through to orchestral rock suites and fusion. Punk was the inevitable regression to the mean, back to three chords and banal grunting. Many wannabe musicians simply could not play at such a a sustained, complex level, nor did they have the inclination to continue down that path. Thus, after a Renaissance of perhaps a decade, a retrograde Dark Age.
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^ Hmm, yes.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2022 at 18:04
The article focuses on the music, which is laudable, although I think prog was brought down ultimately by decisions in the record companies and media on what horse to put their money.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2022 at 03:29
Punk didn't kill progGeek
(it was disco in Québec, anywaysà

Prog committed suicide (ELP - CensoredWorksPig, for ex) and went into a coma.Nuke


Big smile


It's like CD haters claiming that CD killed vinyls, when it is cassettes that killed vinyl (and CD killed the cassettes)


Edited by Sean Trane - January 08 2022 at 03:32
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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