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Might be good to know:
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Zeuhl is an adjective in Kobaïan, the language written by Christian Vander, drummer and founder of the French band Magma.
Pronunciation: zEU(h)l, while the EU are like a French E with a slight U, and the (h) is a semi-silent letter which is an integrated part of the EU, totaling in a "syllable and a half".
The word means celestial, although many times it is misunderstood as meaning "celestial music", since the members of Magma describe the genre of their music as Zeuhl. Zeuhl Wortz, though, means Music of the universal might.
The genre is a mixture of musical genres like Neoclassicism, Romanticism, Modernism and Fusion. Common elements: oppressive or discipline-conveying feel, marching themes, throbbing bass, an ethereal piano or Rhodes piano, and brass instruments. 


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I wonder if Paul has any favourites of "Music of the universal might" - he has almost had a suggestion for Avant-Prog. Big smile
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Any other Zeuhl favourites outthere?  Tongue
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Nothing much to add that hasn’t already been mentioned. Obviously a large chunk of the Magma discography would make my list, as well as Weidorje’s and Laurent Thibault’s albums.

A fine recent Zeuhl album worth hearing is “Budo” by Vak.
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Might be interesting to know about Magma's albums for those who don't know it already:

"Magma's first album, Magma (later reissued as Kobaïa), told a story of refugees fleeing a future Earth and settling on a fictional planet called Kobaïa.[20] The lyrics were all in Kobaïan (except the title track, sung mostly in English), a language Vander constructed for the album, some sung by soloists and others by "massive quasi-operatic choruses".[3] Over the next three decades Magma made a further thirteen albums that continued the mythology of Kobaïa, all sung in Kobaïan.[18]"

(from Wikipedia's article about Magma, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(band)#Koba%C3%AFan )


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Magma: Köhntarkösz, K.A., Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré, Zëss (Le Jour du Néant)
Weidorje: s/t
Einder Stellaire - Eider Stellaire I
KoenjiHyakkei - Dhorimviskha



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I'm definitely looking to take some notes on bands and albums I'm not yet familiar. I do really enjoy Zeuhl, but compared to other Prog idioms, I'm still pretty green on the lot of it.

I love Mathematical Mother by Universal Totem Orchestra (Rituale Alieno is up there for me too); probably my favorite from Magma is Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh, but I also love the debut and, if I remember correctly, Kohntarkosz; I love Koenji Hyakkei probably the most for the bands that I know and it's tough... between Nivraym, Angherr Shisspa and Dhorimviskha (seriously, tough); my favorite Zao album is probably Shekina; and my favorite frrom Ruins is maybe(...?) Vrresto? Refusal Fossil was pretty good, too. Hard to remember where I'm at with Ruins, for instance.
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I have to be in a certain mood to listen to Zeuhl. When I do it's always Weidorje.
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Does Merci count?

That's the only one I listen to pretty regularly.

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13 MagmaHhai / Live Fra1975Live, Zeuhl
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12 Scherzoo03 Fra2015Fusion, Zeuhl
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Originally posted by DreamTechPlus DreamTechPlus wrote:

Does Merci count?

That's the only one I listen to pretty regularly.

Love, DreamTechPlus.

If you mean the 1985 Magma album, I'd say yes.
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My absolute favourite Zeuhl album is "Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie", the 2001 live album of Magma. "K. A" and "Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré" are my favourite studio albums of Magma. The repeated chanting of "Hallelujah" on "K.A" is out of this world. And "Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré" sounds like a Zeuhl Black Mass.

I also love "Infernal Machina" by Jannick Top; it sounds like a battle between the forces of Good and Evil, with Evil winning.


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[QUOTE=David_D]
Might be good to know:
PA's  Zeuhl definition
Zeuhl is an adjective in Kobaïan, the language written by Christian Vander, drummer and founder of the French band Magma.
Pronunciation: zEU(h)l, while the EU are like a French E with a slight U, and the (h) is a semi-silent letter which is an integrated part of the EU, totaling in a "syllable and a half".
The word means celestial, although many times it is misunderstood as meaning "celestial music", since the members of Magma describe the genre of their music as Zeuhl. Zeuhl Wortz, though, means Music of the universal might.
The genre is a mixture of musical genres like Neoclassicism, Romanticism, Modernism and Fusion. Common elements: oppressive or discipline-conveying feel, marching themes, throbbing bass, an ethereal piano or Rhodes piano, and brass instruments. 

The French/German TV-channel Arte broadcasted a feature on Magma in June 2021 and described Zeuhl as a mixture of jazz, rock, classical, modern avant-garde, R'n'B, metal and world music.


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A new album has found its happy way to my rather modest Zeuhl collection, and it's

Universal Totem Orchestra (I) - Mathematical Mother (2016)






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Definitely not Eros by Dün, because no zeuhl. But I am gonna go with a personal favourite of mine: kultivator and masal by jean Paul prat. Zao also hast great albums. And the Second gaan is huge..
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

My absolute favourite Zeuhl album is "Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie", the 2001 live album of Magma. "K. A" and "Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré" are my favourite studio albums of Magma. The repeated chanting of "Hallelujah" on "K.A" is out of this world. And "Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré" sounds like a Zeuhl Black Mass.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

..... my rather modest Zeuhl collection, .....

But actually, it's now only one album less than my Electronic Prog collection, a sub-genre I think of as being quite fond of.
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