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    Posted: October 01 2022 at 11:25
Let's say that the "Just the band" guy can be epitomized by people like Eddy Offord or David Hentschel, and the "Add some Orchestra/Choir" guy is represented by the likes of George Martin or Bob Ezrin. Alan Parsons is a case of both teams player, I suppose.

Two previous polls of mine may serve as reference:

Eddy Offord poll: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126404

Parsons vs Ezrin poll: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129557
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It all depends on its use, an Orchestra/Choir can be a wonderful addition to a piece of music if it enhances and not overshadows the song. I wasn't a fan of "The Wall of Sound". I prefer The Beatles "Let It Be Naked" over the Phil Spector debacle.

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Both for me. I never had a problem with the strings on Time and a Word but certainly didn't miss them on The Yes Album.
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generaaly band, unless the band wants the extras 
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

It all depends on its use, an Orchestra/Choir can be a wonderful addition to a piece of music if it enhances and not overshadows the song. I wasn't a fan of "The Wall of Sound". I prefer The Beatles "Let It Be Naked" over the Phil Spector debacle.

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Both of course. Some pieces of music are most enjoyable with just one instrument and a voice, some other with the whole the band, while others need to have a full orchestra to fully blossom.

Edited by Manuel - October 01 2022 at 22:46
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Some orchestral additions are pretty naff, but when it's done well, it can be fantastic (eg La Princesse Perdue).
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Reneissance at Carnegie Hall and Atom Heart Mother are two of my favorite albums, so...
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Reneissance at Carnegie Hall and Atom Heart Mother are two of my favorite albums, so...

Renaissance's music just lends itself to being orchestrated, doesn't it? It's one of those classic live albums where the whole becomes greater than the sum of the parts... Star
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It's got to be both. But a lot of added orchestra in a rock context (prog rock included) feels exactly like it's added - without adding anything of substance. I really love it when it works though. In disco, soul, pop, folk, jazz and every thinkable genre.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:


Reneissance at Carnegie Hall and Atom Heart Mother are two of my favorite albums, so...


I would add Rick Wakeman to them. Specially the King Arthur album.
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There's skillful use of an orchestra and then there's use of an orchestra as background music. The best bands and producers know how to use an orchestra and Phil Spector is probably the best example of how to use an orchestra.
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