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    Posted: January 12 2023 at 05:04
How do you justify to other people why you like listening to prog rock?.

Im not the most biggest and most solid fan of prog rock anyway, its not like i have tons and tons and tons of albums from many prog rock bands, my pool is fairly small.   I love some prog metal like Savatage, Threshold and Nightwish, but other than them, i just have one album only from other prog metal bands like Queensryche, Dream Theater, Dreamscape and Dark Water.

And as for prog rock, the only prog rock band i have the entire discography of is Arena (with the exception of 7th Degree of Seperation).  Otherwise with other prog rock bands , its just the one of or a few albums, or just the 1 compilation CD.   It also doesnt help that neo prog rock albums are dam exspensive usually. I mean you try getting Pendragons album The Masquerade Overture for under £10.

But the small pool that i do have i do listen to fairly often.   And my honest opinion (and justification) of listening to prog rock is, you need to be in a serious music listening mood if your going to enjoy it.   If you only like music that starts off right away with great hooks, its not gonna be for you i dont think.    To me, the deal with prog rock songs is, its either gonna be the most long winded and most boring song you can ever hear, or........on the other end of the scale, it can turn out to be the most brilliant complexed and well written and thought out song you can ever hear.    If a poor or mediocre long winded song can be utterly boring, then a good or great long winded song is going to display marvelous writing and performing and take you on a great enjoyable journey.

And that leads me now onto my last point.   Many prog rock/metal songs go on for more than 10 mins, some even go on for 20 mins.    These type of songs take you on a journey in and out of different moods and emotions, they aint your simple intro verse chorus verse chorus verse chorus type songs.  Prog rock songs this long behave more like a song done at an opera.
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I don't need to justify the reason why I listen to prgressive music in general. For me there are two types of music: Music which is written for dancing, and Music which is written to be listen to. Progressive music belongs to the listening category, and that's the kind of music I prefer.
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Prog rock is a lot more fun to dissect, rearrange, and put back together inside my head. Even some of the most classic prog songs I can find ways that would do things differently or add another layer to. I'm kind of weird.

But really, no individual needs to justify why they like a particular style of music to any other individual. Liking prog rock is not a crime or a social faux pas. Individuals that take issue with what other individuals like in the arts (music or otherwise) have a lot more growing up to do.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:


But really, no individual needs to justify why they like a particular style of music to any other individual. Liking prog rock is not a crime or a social faux pas. Individuals that take issue with what other individuals like in the arts (music or otherwise) have a lot more growing up to do.

Totally agree here. Thumbs Up
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I first disbosom, then repent, and then repeat the same process whenever I have to tell another that I listen to prog rock.
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I've never felt the need to justify liking any type of music.
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Ok, im getting the feeling that people are interpreting my post as, justifying why you like prog rock to people that are aggressive and confronting about it, like "why the hell do you like that crap? eh?? eh??".   No, i mean to people that just civilly ask why do you like it, where all they do is just say something like "i tried giving it a go, i just found it boring to be honest, it just doesnt do it for me".

As far as the former example goes, yeah sod em, who cares what they think, nothing you say would ever be good enough for them anyway.


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I've no need to justify it, same as any other genre that appeals to me.
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Justify? LOL
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It's more about praising than justifying as very good, artistically ambitious music, driven by primarily other values than just making 
money. Can give you exiting interest, pleasure, and a lot of other good things for the rest of your life - to put it shortly. Thumbs Up







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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geekfreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2023 at 13:27
Like Chopper and Progishness, Iíve never had to justify any genre of music that. I listen to.
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No justification needed.
Anymore than I need to justify why I like cheese and jam sandwiches or oily wrestling midget porn.
It's just my kink !
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Originally posted by Greenmist Greenmist wrote:

How do you justify to other people why you like listening to prog rock?.

Im not the most biggest and most solid fan of prog rock anyway, its not like i have tons and tons and tons of albums from many prog rock bands, my pool is fairly small.   I love some prog metal like Savatage, Threshold and Nightwish, but other than them, i just have one album only from other prog metal bands like Queensryche, Dream Theater, Dreamscape and Dark Water.

And as for prog rock, the only prog rock band i have the entire discography of is Arena (with the exception of 7th Degree of Seperation).  Otherwise with other prog rock bands , its just the one of or a few albums, or just the 1 compilation CD.   It also doesnt help that neo prog rock albums are dam exspensive usually. I mean you try getting Pendragons album The Masquerade Overture for under £10.

But the small pool that i do have i do listen to fairly often.   And my honest opinion (and justification) of listening to prog rock is, you need to be in a serious music listening mood if your going to enjoy it.   If you only like music that starts off right away with great hooks, its not gonna be for you i dont think.    To me, the deal with prog rock songs is, its either gonna be the most long winded and most boring song you can ever hear, or........on the other end of the scale, it can turn out to be the most brilliant complexed and well written and thought out song you can ever hear.    If a poor or mediocre long winded song can be utterly boring, then a good or great long winded song is going to display marvelous writing and performing and take you on a great enjoyable journey.

And that leads me now onto my last point.   Many prog rock/metal songs go on for more than 10 mins, some even go on for 20 mins.    These type of songs take you on a journey in and out of different moods and emotions, they aint your simple intro verse chorus verse chorus verse chorus type songs.  Prog rock songs this long behave more like a song done at an opera.

I think that maybe the use of the word 'justify' has muddied the water somewhat. I think that if you are asking how you can explain your interest in prog rock to another person (possibly one who knows you better than we do) i think your following paragraphs say everything you need to say, particularly '' If a poor or mediocre long winded song can be utterly boring, then a good or great long winded song is going to display marvelous writing and performing and take you on a great enjoyable journey.''

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First, you have to justify to me the crap music you listen to. When you are unable to explain why you listen to mindless drek and prepackaged swill, there is no need for me to justify anything. 
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I justify with a big middle finger

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I don't speak of it.   If it comes up I feign ignorance: "E. L. who ? ",  I say with a quizzical expression.   It's just easier that way.

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I don't have to justify it.
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Hi,

Kinda easy answer for me ... I don't listen to "prog" at all ... I listen to MUSIC and its differentiation (afaiac) is not an issue. If asked, I simply say ... I don't listen to anyone thing ... which makes it harder to get someone to "listen" to prog, but then, if they haven't got into the music yet, who do you think you are to change their feelings?
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Justifying? Defending? To me it's pointless, but from experience I've heard reactions like..."Are you on drugs?" Drugs generally have little to do with Prog composition unless it's something mild like Marijuana or perhaps amphetamines. Steve Hackett once said..."My first girlfriend was addicted to drugs and I realize it's not for me" "I wouldn't drink a beer and play the music of Genesis " ..let alone drugs" "With all the odd time signatures that are constantly changing..you have to be on the ball"

It's insulting and ignorant to be a fan of Led Zeppelin, CCR, and etc and when hearing Progressive Rock you ask the person listening to it if they're on drugs. Understanding the science of Progressive Rock points in the direction of discipline. It such a stupid thing to say based on some notion that Progressive Rock sounds weird or embarrassingly intrusive..and instead of allowing people to see you cringe ...you blame the person listening to it. I've been down this path for decades and nine hundred and nintey nine times out of a thousand it's always been a fan of Classic Rock.

When people question politely as to why you listen to it or in fact why you like it...it's usually attributed to the fact that they are alien to it's existence and conditioned by the sound of commercially viable music.

It's still ignorance because Progressive Rock is usually written by musicians who study other styles of music. African, or basically Asian music in general along with Japanese Folk melodies, Traditional Irish Folk ...Classical Music. It requires discipline to compose and perform Progressive Rock because it's based off other kinds of music. Music that you have to study for years before you even think about fusing it with Rock. Society plays a different game which revolves around a pointless agenda to a musician who writes Progressive Rock
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I generally evade talking about it. Most people don't care for the idea that music is a progressive creative process and prefer to listen to whatever drivel is on the radio. Yep they should justify to me why they listen to that crap not the other way round. Smile
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