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    Posted: October 20 2005 at 05:53
Originally posted by krauthead krauthead wrote:

Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

Damn Right! I can't get enough of it!!! And I've been collecting mainly Krautrock mp3's for the last three weeks (approximately one mp3 disc, consisting of at least 9 albums, every three days)

check my current signature

Yo Bilek!

Where do you find all this?


My mp3 dealer (pirate) works hard these days!
He uses SLSK (soul seek?) to share mp3's on the net. (I can't do that, not allowed at work, and don't have a personal computer!)
He found almost the entire discographies of Faust, Embryo, Guru Guru and Kraan (few albums missing)
Unfortunately he was lazy on Ash Ra Tempel. I still lack ASh Ra Tempel (debut), Seven Up and Gin Rose, along with many Ashra releases. MAybe he'll bring the private tapes one day...
And I myself DL'ed the entire studio recordings of Can (with the exception of Cannibalism 3) from several russian mp3 sites...
I'll dig deeper when I have money
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 10:19
I only have one album, from the Ash Ra Tempel incarnation of this group: Starring Rosi. It's not bad, but I'd really like to get their other stuff. I suppose I like the Tangerine Dream influences I hear in them also, as I always liked the TD sound. Oh, and of course, there's that brilliant guitar player, what's his name?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 10:03
Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

Damn Right! I can't get enough of it!!! And I've been collecting mainly Krautrock mp3's for the last three weeks (approximately one mp3 disc, consisting of at least 9 albums, every three days)

Have you heard AINIGMA or RUFUS ZUPHALL? Those were the first German 70's rock I heard. I found their albums from local vinyl stores, where Little Wing of Refugees (the record label) pushed their material. I think there should be some mp3 streams for them. GÄA is also a great band, a bit similar to those. I discovered it by using this site!

Great bands indeed, Rufus Zuphall is very very great 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 09:33
Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

Damn Right! I can't get enough of it!!! And I've been collecting mainly Krautrock mp3's for the last three weeks (approximately one mp3 disc, consisting of at least 9 albums, every three days)

Have you heard AINIGMA or RUFUS ZUPHALL? Those were the first German 70's rock I heard. I found their albums from local vinyl stores, where Little Wing of Refugees (the record label) pushed their material. I think there should be some mp3 streams for them. GÄA is also a great band, a bit similar to those. I discovered it by using this site!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 06:43
Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

Damn Right! I can't get enough of it!!! And I've been collecting mainly Krautrock mp3's for the last three weeks (approximately one mp3 disc, consisting of at least 9 albums, every three days)

check my current signature

Yo Bilek!

Where do you find all this?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 05:49
Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by krauthead krauthead wrote:

Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by krauthead krauthead wrote:

** I believe the thread starter was talking about Ash Ra Tempel, I hope he did?!


(You must know better than me, krauthead!)

I knew that picture from long ago and yes it is Ash Ra Tempel, but posting it here and talking about Ashra... I just hope he talked about Ash Ra Tempel then...

Hmmm... maybe you know lots more than me Bilek, I'm not that deep into information conserning who was when, where and why and that kind of stuff.

I'm so so when it comes to bandnames, release years and what country it came from, Ashra was mostly Göttsching, I didn't say he was alone... to say it this way: he is the one that make the sound good so if one don't like them you shall blame someone else than him.

You seem to know some info Bilek and to be honest I think you'd beat me any day at: Who Wants To Be A Krautonaire? 

Anyhow, I have more than 1800+ kraut albums and you'll prolly know more than me about all of them, fine with me... then I'm happy for you Bilek, also proud to say the least

Gee, what's all the fuss about?!?!?!?

I just said you must know better than me, and I was damn serious!!!

1800+ krautrock albums!?!?!?!? My entire discothéque cannot match up to that number (even if I include my 150+ CD mp3 archive)!!!

Fuss, it was nothing near fuss... I was happy that you knew so much... in some parts I was also kidding or more like joking a little bit... never ment in a bad way my friend... sorry Bilek that you took it the wrong way.

150+ CD mp3??? that wasn't bad 

Yes I believe I've got that many, maybe 50 more or less, I don't care wich...

But then my life sucks hard, one of my few ups in life is 'krautrock' and without this and 'canterbury'... and my female I'm nothing, have nothing... true... not sad or so but it's honest and no fuss here also... Ok Bilek? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 05:31

Ash Ra Tempel!

Magnificic!

Great!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 05:21
Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

all is crap 

Regrets!!!!!

Krautrock is crap?!?!?!?!?

seems you never raised your head off Iron Maiden and gave a listen to classic bands such as Can, Amon Düül II, some Tangerine Dream, or Faust.

I understand if you're a Heavy Metal fan, and dislike krautrock, but being a progarchives forum member, I would expect you to appreaciate at least some of the material coming from these delightful bands...

I didn't like the heavy emphasis on experimentalism at first (i.e. Can's Soup in Ege Bamyasi, as edited in Anthology) but it takes more than several spins to get used to it!!!

break your eggshell, for heaven's sake!!!!!

Hmm i quite did enjoy tangerine dream...but to be honest i have never cared to listen to them records

But my dad got evert akbum of Neu! Can Amon Duul II, Amon Duul, Faust, Ashra, Ash Ra tempel, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze,Guru Guru, Kraan, Popol vuh,Kraftwerk,Edgar froese,Cluster,Grobsschnitt to  name a few...

what would you recomend for a RIO/Avant-garde fan?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 05:16

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

Damn Right! I can't get enough of it!!! And I've been collecting mainly Krautrock mp3's for the last three weeks (approximately one mp3 disc, consisting of at least 9 albums, every three days)

check my current signature

Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2005 at 05:14
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

all is crap 

Regrets!!!!!

Krautrock is crap?!?!?!?!?

seems you never raised your head off Iron Maiden and gave a listen to classic bands such as Can, Amon Düül II, some Tangerine Dream, or Faust.

I understand if you're a Heavy Metal fan, and dislike krautrock, but being a progarchives forum member, I would expect you to appreaciate at least some of the material coming from these delightful bands...

I didn't like the heavy emphasis on experimentalism at first (i.e. Can's Soup in Ege Bamyasi, as edited in Anthology) but it takes more than several spins to get used to it!!!

break your eggshell, for heaven's sake!!!!!

Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:54

Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

^ One can't have too much krautrock!

all is crap 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:00
^ One can't have too much krautrock!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 05:42
my dad got too much krautrock..i suspect he got every band that is listed in the krautrock category including the ones that are not listed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2005 at 05:37
Originally posted by krauthead krauthead wrote:

Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by krauthead krauthead wrote:

** I believe the thread starter was talking about Ash Ra Tempel, I hope he did?!


(You must know better than me, krauthead!)

I knew that picture from long ago and yes it is Ash Ra Tempel, but posting it here and talking about Ashra... I just hope he talked about Ash Ra Tempel then...

Hmmm... maybe you know lots more than me Bilek, I'm not that deep into information conserning who was when, where and why and that kind of stuff.

I'm so so when it comes to bandnames, release years and what country it came from, Ashra was mostly Göttsching, I didn't say he was alone... to say it this way: he is the one that make the sound good so if one don't like them you shall blame someone else than him.

You seem to know some info Bilek and to be honest I think you'd beat me any day at: Who Wants To Be A Krautonaire? 

Anyhow, I have more than 1800+ kraut albums and you'll prolly know more than me about all of them, fine with me... then I'm happy for you Bilek, also proud to say the least

Gee, what's all the fuss about?!?!?!?

I just said you must know better than me, and I was damn serious!!!

1800+ krautrock albums!?!?!?!? My entire discothéque cannot match up to that number (even if I include my 150+ CD mp3 archive)!!!

Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2005 at 02:59

I think "Gin Rosé" is also a nice live album! There's Manuel Göttshcing and Klaus Schulze improvising, but the sound is more softer that their early ASH RA TEMPEL works. The lack of drums also make it less aggressive.

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=3587

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:26
"New Age of Earth" is one of the best records of all time for me! Gottsching was one of the few musicians of that time (apart form Eno and Kraftwerk) that knew seriously what to do with a drum machine...

The Detroit techno musicians (Derrick May, Carl Craig et al.) were absolutely in love with "E2 E4". There's even a european dance hit of the early nineties ("Sueño Latino") that was built from a sample from that record.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:15

Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

I prefer the Ash Ra Tempel incarnation...

I agree with you there Fantômas

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2005 at 13:06
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

The Ashra albums, particularly New Age of Earth and Blackouts (as DB pointed out) are as good as the German synth/guitar based prog ever got, and there's also the E2 - E4 and Inventions for Electric Guitar albums, plus things like The Private Tapes and The Making Of..., which hint at a huge backlog of unreleased material by Manuel Gottsching lurking in a vault somewhere. As good as Tangerine Dream were at their peak, Ashra produced much more subtle and finely nuanced albums using much the same set up. Essential for lovers of electronic prog.


I agree, however I prefer the Ash Ra Tempel incarnation...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2005 at 11:49
Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

Originally posted by krauthead krauthead wrote:

** I believe the thread starter was talking about Ash Ra Tempel, I hope he did?!


(You must know better than me, krauthead!)

I knew that picture from long ago and yes it is Ash Ra Tempel, but posting it here and talking about Ashra... I just hope he talked about Ash Ra Tempel then...

Hmmm... maybe you know lots more than me Bilek, I'm not that deep into information conserning who was when, where and why and that kind of stuff.

I'm so so when it comes to bandnames, release years and what country it came from, Ashra was mostly Göttsching, I didn't say he was alone... to say it this way: he is the one that make the sound good so if one don't like them you shall blame someone else than him.

You seem to know some info Bilek and to be honest I think you'd beat me any day at: Who Wants To Be A Krautonaire? 

Anyhow, I have more than 1800+ kraut albums and you'll prolly know more than me about all of them, fine with me... then I'm happy for you Bilek, also proud to say the least

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2005 at 07:10
The Ashra albums, particularly New Age of Earth and Blackouts (as DB pointed out) are as good as the German synth/guitar based prog ever got, and there's also the E2 - E4 and Inventions for Electric Guitar albums, plus things like The Private Tapes and The Making Of..., which hint at a huge backlog of unreleased material by Manuel Gottsching lurking in a vault somewhere. As good as Tangerine Dream were at their peak, Ashra produced much more subtle and finely nuanced albums using much the same set up. Essential for lovers of electronic prog.
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to the already rich among us...'

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