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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Yeah I like this list a lot.
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Ian
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Grumpyprogfan
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David_D
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I could of course not keep away from here. My list is a compromise between the most appreciated (both on PA and RYM), less advanced and my own preferences. It covers "The Big Eight" classics, some more modern and the main sub-genres if Progressive Rock is seen as a meta-genre. But all that could not be done only with a dozen albums :
Genesis (UK) - Selling England by the Pound (1973) Yes (UK) - The Yes Album (1971) King Crimson (UK) - Red (1974) Pink Floyd (UK) - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) Jethro Tull (UK) - Aqualung (1971) Emerson, Lake & Palmer (UK) - eponymous (1970) Van der Graaf Generator (UK) - H to He Who Am... (1971) Camel (UK) - The Snow Goose (1975) Porcupine Tree (UK) - Coma Divine (1997) The Mars Volta (USA) - DeLoused in the Comatorium (2003) Caravan (UK) - In the Land of Grey and Pink (1971) Marillion (UK) - Script for a Jester's Tear (1983) Dream Theater (USA) - Images and Words (1992) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (I) - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973) Mahavishnu Orchestra (USA) - Birds of Fire (1973) Tangerine Dream (D) - Stratosfear (1975) Magma (F) - Üdü Wüdü (1976) Univers Zero (B) - Clivages (2010) Edited by David_D - March 15 2023 at 14:02 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Grumpyprogfan
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Could anyone explain how and/or why a noob to prog would listen to, and not lose interest, during the eight minute freaky jam part of "Moonchild" from the first KC album? I don't think any noob would enjoy that.
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Logan
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Okay, not the most representative across a range of Prog styles, but I rather like this as a journey. Maybe I'll improve on this later.
Sorry, it's a baker's dozen. Pink Floyd - Meddle Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel Yes - Fragile King Crimson - Lizard Anna von Hausswolff - The Miraculous Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo Focus - Hamburger Concerto Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste Bubu - Anabelas Magma - Kobaia Herbie Hancock - Sextant Swans - To Be Kind The Residents - Eskimo I also had wanted: Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three Cardiacs - Songs for Ships and Irons Alan Parsons Project - I Robot Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Spirogyya - St. Radigunds Message - From Books and Dreams Van der Graaf Generator - H to He... Area - Arbeit Macht Frei kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye |
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Saperlipopette!
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Most music interested people love In the Court quite instantly. Probably because 80% of that album is a timeless delight packed with rawness, emotion and beatuiful melodies that gives context to that freaky jam. By the time it appears "everyone" is already sold. And as the album ends with the iconic title track all is forgiven anyway. In the Court has proven itself through the decades to speak to new generations like basically no other classic prog album does. It's one of the few prog albums that's just as popular outside progcircles - and holds an alltime fourth place at the internet's biggest music site RYM (with a 4.31 rating from 55 000 raters). Only the far more conventional Pink Floyd albums in the PA's top ten can match it.
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Grumpyprogfan
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^Appreciate the reply. I didn't love In the Court instantly. I still don't. Only the first and last songs of that album appeal to me. I've been learning for 47 years that most popular prog is not for me.
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Saperlipopette!
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I think your baker's dozen would have worked wonders for someone who came from a sort of alternative rock/pop. Or maybe jazz/modern classical.
if I allowed myself an additional dozen too, I'd probably try and push the noob a bit further down the rabbit hole and add something like: Miles Davis - In a Silent Way Magma - Kobaïa Can - Future Days Camel - Mirage Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom Kraftwerk - Die Mensch-Maschine Kate Bush - Hounds of Love Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun Talk Talk - Laughing Stock Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven! Radiohead - Kid A |
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David_D
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David_D
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Saperlipopette!
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Nothing speaks to everyone. And most of what I listen to, is "unpopular". Already in early my teens I started digging backwards for music from the past. I was pretty much alone in listening to all this music a couple of decades old, and actually preferring it to what was new, or modern if you will. I'm more "modern" now than ever before actually. Different as we are, anoyone who selects Frank Zappa, National Health, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull and Steely Dan-albums for his extended prog starter kit, is closer to my tastes than most people I meet during a regular week - or month.
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David_D
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Actually, I'd recommend these 21 albums as a very good but yet minimum for a general Prog starter kit: Genesis (UK) - Selling England by the Pound (1973) Yes (UK) - The Yes Album (1971) King Crimson (UK) - Red (1974) Pink Floyd (UK) - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) Jethro Tull (UK) - Aqualung (1971) Emerson, Lake & Palmer (UK) - eponymous (1970) Van der Graaf Generator (UK) - H to He Who Am... (1971) Camel (UK) - The Snow Goose (1975) Rush (CAN) - Moving Pictures (1981) Porcupine Tree (UK) - Coma Divine (1997) The Mars Volta (USA) - DeLoused in the Comatorium (2003) Caravan (UK) - In the Land of Grey and Pink (1971) Gentle Giant (UK) - Acquiring the Taste (1971) Marillion (UK) - Script for a Jester's Tear (1983) Dream Theater (USA) - Images and Words (1992) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (I) - Io Sono Nato Libero (1973) Can (D) - Ege Bamyasi (1972) Mahavishnu Orchestra (USA) - Birds of Fire (1973) Tangerine Dream (D) - Stratosfear (1975) Magma (F) - Üdü Wüdü (1976) Univers Zero (B) - Clivages (2010) Edited by David_D - March 15 2023 at 16:25 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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JD
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Useless !
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Thank you for supporting independently produced music
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Saperlipopette!
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David_D
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Sorry, but I'm a bit more precise than you are. |
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JD
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But to support your comment, it would be like picking Tale From Topographic Oceans for Yes, not doing the movement any favour by using that to support your case. I did notice the "I was simply choosing the twelve most accessible albums" comment in Paul's post. My approach was more in the OP's hypothetical noob's question. "suggest a dozen albums for me that you think will give this total noob the perfect introduction to this Prog Rock-thing?" Whatever perfect is?Edited by JD - March 15 2023 at 16:33 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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What is recommended to this young person could depend on what they already like or listen to. It might not be a good idea to introduce them to the old dinosaur bands or at least not only them. So if they mainly listen to metal then suggest a metal type of prog band and if they mainly listen to classic rock or indie then suggest something in the prog world similar to those. It might be a mistake to suggest things like close to the edge, selling england, in the court, tarkus, thick as a brick, per un amico, snowgoose, etc because it might turn them off if they mostly listen to newer non prog stuff and it's likely they do. They can always discover the classics later. I actually get the feeling that most newer or younger prog fans don't get turned onto the genre through the 70s stuff anymore.
All that being said, I made this short list several years ago with the newbie in mind (before I realized the newcomer might not take to the classics): Pink Floyd-Wish you were here (I suspect most already own Dark side of the moon;if not then go get it asap). Emerson, Lake and Palmer(ELP)- Brain salad surgery King Crimson- In the court of the Crimson King Genesis- Selling England by the Pound Yes-Close to the Edge Jethro Tull-Thick as a Brick(Be warned as it's one long 45 minute track) I might actually toss in a few others though such as: Porcupine Tree - In Absentia Marillion - Misplaced Childhood Gentle Giant - Octopus Anglagard - Hybris VDGG - Pawn Hearts
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Or maybe not at all. That list looks like it's mostly metal and mostly a newer prog list. Certain bands aren't considered "cool" to the younger crowd. Yes = not cool. KC = cool.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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I do like your list! |
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Ian
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Psychedelic Paul
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Those three albums would definitely put me off prog for life if they were my introduction to prog.
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