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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

I think Larks' Tongues in Aspic is a bit overrated, yes.

I'm glad someone agrees with me. Big smile

Hardly divisive, 89% rate is Excellent or Essential and 3% Poor or Fan Only.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

I think Larks' Tongues in Aspic is a bit overrated, yes.

I'm glad someone agrees with me. Big smile

Hardly divisive, 89% rate is Excellent or Essential and 3% Poor or Fan Only.

Definitely, classic KC is beloved by most. 
I think the KC albums from 1981 to 2003 are more divisive.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

I think Larks' Tongues in Aspic is a bit overrated, yes.

I'm glad someone agrees with me. Big smile

Hardly divisive, 89% rate is Excellent or Essential and 3% Poor or Fan Only.

Definitely, classic KC is beloved by most. 
I think the KC albums from 1981 to 2003 are more divisive.

Agree
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I mean, don't get me wrong, I love that album, i just don't see how people could put it in their top 3, or maybe even 5, it's still a great album, just KC has done better things. 
Cause its only knock and know all, but I like it...

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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

I mean, don't get me wrong, I love that album, i just don't see how people could put it in their top 3, or maybe even 5, it's still a great album, just KC has done better things. 

It's in my top 5 all-time and favorite KC album Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

I think Larks' Tongues in Aspic is a bit overrated, yes.

I'm glad someone agrees with me. Big smile

Hardly divisive, 89% rate is Excellent or Essential and 3% Poor or Fan Only.

Definitely, classic KC is beloved by most. 
I think the KC albums from 1981 to 2003 are more divisive.
I agree. I should've chosen Discipline instead. Embarrassed
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Zeit by Tangerine Dream is an album I personally love that's quite divisive:

review by greenback

1 stars What a shame! The music consists in 2-3 humming refrigerators at the same time, plus a portative fan that turns back and forth to make the anyway inexistent rhythm, and finally a coming cluster of threatening killer bees!

There are tons of albums better than this one to describe the desolation once you go alone on Mars! The album is even not minimalist!

Rating: 0.5 star


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My Top 10 Divisive Albums from the Eclectic Prog category. Well, they're divisive to me anyway, even if to no one else here. Smile

2 stars 1979: Robert Fripp - Exposure - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZA3qLXj8bA
2 stars 1972: Gentle Giant - Three Friends - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnfBLo1A3pU
2 stars 1977: Island - Pictures - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEY0qBilPgU
2 stars 2012: Motorpsycho - The Death-Defying Unicorn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5nTFZl1ZJY

You can't be divisive on your own Paul.LOL
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Zeit by Tangerine Dream is an album I personally love that's quite divisive:

review by greenback

1 stars What a shame! The music consists in 2-3 humming refrigerators at the same time, plus a portative fan that turns back and forth to make the anyway inexistent rhythm, and finally a coming cluster of threatening killer bees!

There are tons of albums better than this one to describe the desolation once you go alone on Mars! The album is even not minimalist!

Rating: 0.5 star

LOL

I have a strange relationship with this album. Sometimes I say "this is awesome", other times "wtf is this thing?!". LOL



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^^ My opinion is divided on that issue. Tongue

Anyway, I'm sure I can't be the only one here who dislikes those ten albums. Can I? Geek

Zeit is a 2-star album for me too. Wink


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Zeit is a great pick, took me ages to get my head round it.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

As a rule I'd say, the divisive albums can be those which in general are middle-rated, and not those which are low- or high-rated,
as there's a majority agreement about the latter ones.

A bit edited addition to my argument in case, it could be difficult to see the logic in it. Smile

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Brain Salad Surgery has always been a part of my life.  I love all my Brain Salad Surgery children...I'm looking at you, Bennie The Bouncer.  I find it funny that Bennie is a controversial figure among progheads. 

 Jerusalem was the controversial song among the few who knew...in the public square.  Two controversial songs on one album...depending on your point of view.  Carl Palmer commented-

  “Jerusalem” was recorded by us, and it was banned immediately by the BBC. We thought it was an unbelievable piece of music. It actually summed up prog rock, British prog rock, in that moment in time. It had everything. It was so grand, it was so English, and it was absolutely perfect for the voice."

Zeit?  "The music consists in 2-3 humming refrigerators at the same time, plus a portative fan that turns back and forth to make the anyway inexistent rhythm..."  Funny.  Very funny.LOL




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From Chris H review of the incredible Tago Mago by Can (Krautrock is in general more popular anyywhere else but here)
1 stars ...Hmmm, this listen was uhhh interesting? Let me start from the beginning here. I had heard the track "Bring Me Coffee or Tea" off of somewhere, I can't remember at the moment, but I actually rather liked it. So one day I was poking around some bargain bins, and lo and behold here it was. I bought it for $2.50, and popped it in the stereo. It couldn't have been 10 minutes before my mother comes up and says "What is this crap?". I couldn't agree more Mom! This has to take the cake for the most pointless album ever made. Ever. "Peking O" and "Mushroom" are two of the stupidest, pointless songs I have ever heard...


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^^ My opinion is divided on that issue. Tongue

Anyway, I'm sure I can't be the only one here who dislikes those ten albums. Can I? Geek

Zeit is a 2-star album for me too. Wink

A dash of half-and-half with your caffeinated opinion, Paul. 

I never listen to... at least, not anymore:
Adrian Belew - Lone Rhino
Steve Hackett - Cured
Peter Hammill - A Black Box
Thieves' Kitchen - Head 

I adore:
Robert Fripp - Exposure
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Motorpsycho - The Death-Defying Unicorn
Island - Pictures

Island-Pictures scares me. I collect and cherish my Halloween prog. Especially Lovecraft or Giger inspired Halloween goodies...err baddies.

 The first time I listened to Larks?  I spun the vinyl and began dusting my room.  Several times I zig-zagged back to turn up the volume, because I couldn't hear it.  Suddenly a sonic blast overwhelmed me...scared the daylights out of me. I loved Larks ever since.


Still Wrapping My Head Around:
Gentle Giant - Three Friends
Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts 

I don't get it...yet.  Holding out hope, that it will click in a big way.  It's happened before. Wink

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

From Chris H review of the incredible Tago Mago by Can (Krautrock is in general more popular anyywhere else but here)
1 stars ...Hmmm, this listen was uhhh interesting? Let me start from the beginning here. I had heard the track "Bring Me Coffee or Tea" off of somewhere, I can't remember at the moment, but I actually rather liked it. So one day I was poking around some bargain bins, and lo and behold here it was. I bought it for $2.50, and popped it in the stereo. It couldn't have been 10 minutes before my mother comes up and says "What is this crap?". I couldn't agree more Mom! This has to take the cake for the most pointless album ever made. Ever. "Peking O" and "Mushroom" are two of the stupidest, pointless songs I have ever heard...

that's a review?! Stern Smile And here i thought I was bad at it. (ffs Censored LOL)
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Albums are divisive for one simple reason. Some people GET IT and some don't.
You have to have the musical ability to comprehend the intention of the artist at hand.
I've found many of the most divisive albums are actually some of the best musical expressions to be heard.
Tales From Topographic Oceans is the perfect example.
Brilliant in every way but not instant gratification for those unwilling to dig deeper.
This has always been the case whether it be jazz, 20th century classical or any musical expression.
Over the years i've seen the ratings for many of these divisive albums rise as people catch up to the artists' visions.
THis probably sounds snobbish but you can't comprehend calculus if you haven't mastered basic algebra :)


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

From Chris H review of the incredible Tago Mago by Can (Krautrock is in general more popular anyywhere else but here)
1 stars ...Hmmm, this listen was uhhh interesting? Let me start from the beginning here. I had heard the track "Bring Me Coffee or Tea" off of somewhere, I can't remember at the moment, but I actually rather liked it. So one day I was poking around some bargain bins, and lo and behold here it was. I bought it for $2.50, and popped it in the stereo. It couldn't have been 10 minutes before my mother comes up and says "What is this crap?". I couldn't agree more Mom! This has to take the cake for the most pointless album ever made. Ever. "Peking O" and "Mushroom" are two of the stupidest, pointless songs I have ever heard...

that's a review?! Stern Smile And here i thought I was bad at it. (ffs Censored LOL)


That's not a review, it's a pointless rant. Another person who doesn't get it and has a hissy fit about an album beyond his / her comprehension.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

From Chris H review of the incredible Tago Mago by Can (Krautrock is in general more popular anyywhere else but here)
1 stars ...Hmmm, this listen was uhhh interesting? Let me start from the beginning here. I had heard the track "Bring Me Coffee or Tea" off of somewhere, I can't remember at the moment, but I actually rather liked it. So one day I was poking around some bargain bins, and lo and behold here it was. I bought it for $2.50, and popped it in the stereo. It couldn't have been 10 minutes before my mother comes up and says "What is this crap?". I couldn't agree more Mom! This has to take the cake for the most pointless album ever made. Ever. "Peking O" and "Mushroom" are two of the stupidest, pointless songs I have ever heard...

that's a review?! Stern Smile And here i thought I was bad at it. (ffs Censored LOL)


That's not a review, it's a pointless rant. Another person who doesn't get it and has a hissy fit about an album beyond his / her comprehension.

well, it is a review it seems. I think some people just forget it's not just what you say (that matters), it's how you say it it's just as important. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Undoubtedly, The YES Album that's been the Big Generator of the most controversy over the years is Tales from Topographic Oceans. YES, it's a long double album with four long Yessongswhich was treated as something of a rotten Tormato by the cynical music press, but if you Open Your Eyes, you'll gain The Keys to Ascension and realise what a classic album this is. The album came Close to the Edge of splitting the band up, when there was a Magnification of tensions within the group with so many Fragile egos at stake. In the ensuing Drama, Time and a Word has it that Rick Wakeman threatened to walk out during the recording of the album. The album climbed The Ladder of success though, topping the UK album charts for two weeks. Rick Wakeman left the band and didn't appear on the following Relayer album. There was Talk of a re-Union, but Heaven & Earth had to be moved to persuade Rick to return for the Going for the One album in 1977. The best-selling YES album of all time though, released in 1983, was famously named after its catalogue number, 90125Smile

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