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Poll Question: Pick your top three!
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    Posted: May 16 2023 at 23:53
Pick your three favorites, and let us know which ones they are!

PA's top Jazz Rock/Fusion albums is mostly great as well (+ its got Arti E Mestieri & Nucleus on it:), but I love more albums on Rate You Music's Jazz Fusion list.

Interestingly Shibusashirazu - Shibuboshi has more than 2200 ratings on RYM, while only three at PA. Good stuff, but too much brassy noise for my tastes, preferences - or poor ears. Worth checking out for those of you who can't get enough of those wild japanese ensembles.

Only five of these albums are not on on PA. Bruno Pernadas* has been suggested - and really should be here. Both Sun Ra's in the poll are excellent and PA-relevant fusion. So is Cassiopeia's wonderful debut album (but they soon got even smoother). Taking their full discographies into consideration, I understand why none of them are the greatest fit for PA. Freddie Hubbard's (who's also been suggested) Straight Life is one of the many jazzfusion records that does not rock. My favorite kind of fusion rarely does. It's electrified and it grooves though. Like my favorite fusion often does.

*Full title and year of release year: Those Who Throw Objects at the Crocodiles Will Be Asked to Retrieve Them, 2016


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Myself I voted for:

Crossings
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Third

-but I'm only 100% certain about my first pick. Not voting for those two top Miles-albums doesn't feel right
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1. Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
2. Miles Davis - In a Silent Way
3. Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters


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From the list... The Grand Wazoo and Birds of Fire.

No Pat Metheny, Allan Holdsworth, Weather Report, Jean-Luc Ponty, Dixie Dregs, Bruford, Brand X? No modern fusion like Antoine Fafard, Dewa Budjana, Panzerballett, Hiromi?

RYM does not express my tastes.

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For me "The Break Even Point", the 1979 album by The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble, would definitely be on the list and be voted for, and since it isn't I won't vote.

Here three example tracks (two are taken from sampler albums of the band that contain tracks from the album, hence the different cover art):





Sadly the band is very little known because their albums came out on the label Mood Records, and the albums of that label were exclusively distributed via the German shop chain Zweitausendeins that had shops in several German cities, including Cologne (which is where my brother bought their albums).




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Zappa's Hot Rats, Mahavishnu's Birds of Fire, and Hancock's Sextant.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

From the list... The Grand Wazoo and Birds of Fire.

No Pat Metheny, Allan Holdsworth, Weather Report, Jean-Luc Ponty, Dixie Dregs, Bruford, Brand X? No modern fusion like Antoine Fafard, Dewa Budjana, Panzerballett, Hiromi?

RYM does not express my tastes.


And I'm the opposite. I find it remarkable how much I love from the list. The first two Weather Report albums do rank amongst my favourites, by the way. Choosing just three is almost ridiculous as I love the vast majority of those.

Today I'll go:
Soft Machine - Third
Herbie Hancock - Crossings

And for my third, Big Fun and Realization are especially calling to me right now, but I want to go for a more modern album, and I did listen to it again just the other day. Voting Bruno Pernadas - Those Who Throw Objects at the Crocodiles Will Be Asked to Retrieve Them.

I do listen to more contemporary music these days.


Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

For me "The Break Even Point", the 1979 album by The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble, would definitely be on the list and be voted for, and since it isn't I won't vote.
Here an example track:...


And I could vote for most of these happily even when having favourites not in the list. You're hard to please when it comes to given choices, often going "other" even when there are a plethora of given choices. I wish you would make a poll of 25 of your favourite albums by 25 different artists/bands, or maybe do a blog. Of course this is about your favourite of the options, and it's not one that one could expect to rank at RYM with only a 3.37 rating with 33 ratings and one review. Or at PA, where it has 3.98 with eight ratings and only one of those has a reviews (not from a collab).

There are many others that would have made my list instead of some of these in the top 100, but I can;t complain. Awesome list methinks. Janko Nilovic's Rythmes contemporains, which s ranked at 55 at RYM is a personal favourite.


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I'll vote for my honest top three, which are Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo, and Bitches Brew, even though I don't quite like to give two votes to Zappa with a good number of  other great albums around, such as Soft Machine Third, Return to Forever, Sleeping Beauty,...
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Of these albums my vote goes to Frank Zappa's "Hot Rats", Chick Corea's "Return to Forever" and Soft Machine's "Third".


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

From the list... The Grand Wazoo and Birds of Fire.

No Pat Metheny, Allan Holdsworth, Weather Report, Jean-Luc Ponty, Dixie Dregs, Bruford, Brand X? No modern fusion like Antoine Fafard, Dewa Budjana, Panzerballett, Hiromi?

RYM does not express my tastes.


And I'm the opposite. I find it remarkable how much I love from the list. The first two Weather Report albums do rank amongst my favourites, by the way. Choosing just three is almost ridiculous as I love the vast majority of those.

Today I'll go:
Soft Machine - Third
Herbie Hancock - Crossings

And for my third, Big Fun and Realization are especially calling to me right now, but I want to go for a more modern album, and I did listen to it again just the other day. Voting Bruno Pernadas - Those Who Throw Objects at the Crocodiles Will Be Asked to Retrieve Them.

I do listen to more contemporary music these days.


Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

For me "The Break Even Point", the 1979 album by The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble, would definitely be on the list and be voted for, and since it isn't I won't vote.
Here an example track:...


And I could vote for most of these happily even when having favourites not in the list. You're hard to please when it comes to given choices, often going "other" even when there are a plethora of given choices. I wish you would make a poll of 25 of your favourite albums by 25 different artists/bands, or maybe do a blog. Of course this is about your favourite of the options, and it's not one that one could expect to rank at RYM with only a 3.37 rating with 33 ratings and one review. Or at PA, where it has 3.98 with eight ratings and only one of those has a reviews (not from a collab).

There are many others that would have made my list instead of some of these in the top 100, but I can;t complain. Awesome list methinks. Janko Nilovic's Rythmes contemporains, which s ranked at 55 at RYM is a personal favourite.

It is not surprising there are no votes or reviews for albums of The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble due to the distributing exclusivity of Zweitausendeins. Hardly anyone knows of that band at all. Which is a shame; they are top notch.

Here a live video of them:




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^ I know the band quite well already, but to me there is such a great amount of music in the RYM list that I don't feel such desire to focus on others. Since it is so little reviewed at PA: the debut has no reviews, the next has one reviewer and the one after has one review, have you as a prog reviewer considered reviewing it? I recall that you have mentioned the band a number of times. I don't have the writing skill that you reviewers do, otherwise I would review some of my favourite lesser-known albums.
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Hot Rats
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Miles Davis - Bitches Brew, 1970
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats, 1969
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire, 1973
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Too many great albums to pick only three.
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Hi,

In my book, the same group being represented more than once, simply shows the lack of care for the "artist".

If you take away the doubles you actually have a nice list, which could include a lot more folks from Europe, most of which were left behind.

I don't think that many of us do not "accept" Miles, or Frank as "jazz-fusion" in some way, despite their tastes also moving in other directions as well. Thus, the need for 2nd, 3rd and 4th album by the same artist simply hurts the choices and the talent of many musicians the world over.

I couldn't vote ... the listing was too "popularity" minded, and I think it showed how much we listen to different versions of the music, and specially a lot of European stuff ... where it's diversion was influenced by a lot more than just the blues, and some independent spirits.
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The only album on that list which I really like is the Chick Corea one.
My favourite jazz/fusion band is Solution, by a country mile. Divergence, Cordon Bleu and Fully Interlocking are absolutely wonderful.
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Herbie Hancock ~ Head Hunters
Herbie Hancock ~ Thrust
Mahavishnu Orchestra ~ Birds of Fire

(Not a single RTF album...interesting. There are a few I'd knock out of there for Romantic Warrior.)
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Casiopea - Casiopea (1979) deserves a vote. Smile
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:


(Not a single RTF album...interesting. There are a few I'd knock out of there for Romantic Warrior.)

Agreed
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:


(Not a single RTF album...interesting. There are a few I'd knock out of there for Romantic Warrior.)

Agreed

No bands/artists from Germany or (most of) Europe either. 
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