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    Posted: August 19 2023 at 10:32
The album below was wrongly added to another "The Foundation" band.

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81791

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Before the Dawn (4:36)
2. Birth (3:21)
3. Climbing Mountains (5:03)
4. Blind to Reality (4:55)
5. Despair (3:37)
6. Mask (12:14)
7. Renewal (4:32)
8. Unconditional (4:01)
9. Future (7:18)

Total Time 49:37

Line-up / Musicians

- Ron Lammers / keyboards
- Mark Smit / vocals
- Rinie Huigen / electric & acoustic guitars (2-9)
- Jens van der Valk / electric guitar, EBow (1,3-5,8)
- Gijs Koopman / bass, Taurus pedals, keyboards
- Jan Grijpstra / drums
- Jan Munnik / keyboards (4,6-8)
- Sjoerd Bearda / violin (1,3,6,7)
- Judith van der Valk / flute (3,7)
- Aad Bannink / electric guitar solo (8)

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Cover: Douwe Fledderus
Label: Xymphonia Records
Format: CD, Digital
June 30, 2023


We already have the Swedish band, so maybe we could add the new band from the Netherlands. It sounds Neo-Prog to me, but maybe Symphonic Rock also? I'm not sure.

More information:

Thanks! Smile
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I try to help when I can. Thanks for doing it. ;)
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This is still stuck in the Swedish band page. Is anyone looking into moving it? 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

This is still stuck in the Swedish band page. Is anyone looking into moving it? 

only an admin can do that. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

This is still stuck in the Swedish band page. Is anyone looking into moving it? 

only an admin can do that. 
I can do that (Cristi could do that too) via the Admin panel, but the new artist page must be created first.

I'm surprised to see no reaction at all from the Neo-Prog team after one week.
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Just in case there's any confusion here's my initial post in the errors and corrections thread:

The entry for The Foundation lists two releases and says this band is from Sweden. However, the second release The Mask is from an entirely different band who are from the Netherlands. You can look this up on rate your music (and probably elsewhere) if you don't believe me. ;)
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Little update: there are already 2 reviews for this album under the wrong artist page... Shocked
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Little update: there are already 2 reviews for this album under the wrong artist page... Shocked

I asked for a separation of the two, as per Ron Lammers request. We wait...
I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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In the meantime the Dutch Foundation has been cleared by the Neo team. 
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I've searched for info in order to write a bio. From their website is not clear who is a band member and who is a guest, or if it's a solo project. 
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^ Luca, you'll find all the info you need to write a biography in this Progwereld interview with band members Ron Lammers, Rinie Huigen, Gijs Koopman and Mark Smit, which was conducted by Hans Ravensbergen back in June 2023: https://www.progwereld.org/interview/the-foundation-het-echte-leven-als-symfonisch-sprookje/.

It's in Dutch, but Google makes quite a reasonable job of the translation. Smile

Edit: An easier route to a shorter but perfectly adequate biography could be taken by editing a few parts of this excellent review of the 'Mask' album by David Edwards at the Progressive Aspect, from July 2023: https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2023/07/08/the-foundation-mask/.


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Added and album fixed. I haven't found a picture with the whole band, so by now I have used a photo of Ron Lammers. 
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^ It's essentially Ron Lammers' project, so I don't see that as a problem really, but if you want a photo of him along with most of the other musicians who were involved in making the album (guitarist Aad Bannink wasn't present when the photo was taken, but most of the band were), you can find it on the band's facebook page here (see reduced size version of it below).



The current album cover image isn't really the best available - the album cover itself it has a large lilac coloured oblong area around it, but a much better one can be found on discogs.



^ That's a copy of the cover image at 300 x 300 px to save a bit of space in the thread, but the link itself gives you the recommended 600 x 600 px sized image.
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^ Done.
To see the new band picture we need the system cache to be flushed. Likely tomorrow.
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Well done guys. As I like to say better late than never. ;)
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I still see the old picture. 
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^ The issue must be with your own computer Luca. The new photo was showing for me when I viewed the PA page for the band yesterday - just an hour or so after you had updated it.
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