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Emerson, Lake & Palmer - "The Only Way (Hymn)"    (excerpt)

"People has stirred moved by the word.
Kneel at the shrine, deceived by the wine.
How was the earth conceived? Infinite space.
Is there such a place? You must believe in the human race.
Can you believe, God makes you breathe.
Why did he lose six million Jews.
Touched by the wings, fears angel brings
Sad winter storm, grey autumn dawn
Who looks on life itself, who lights your way?
Only you can say. How can you just obey?
...........
Don't be afraid: man is man made."

That's great lyrics and not only anti-religious but first and foremost telling that "man is man made" - even I can see 
a problem or two from a religious point of view.


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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

For me, those lines from (Hymn) just seem to trivialize what it's trying to address. A simplistic take on an extremely complex situation.

Why not attack this god for the total 60 million people estimated to have died during that particular conflict?
 
I think mentioning the 6 million Jews was quite appropriate for the song because, according to the Bible, Jews were God's chosen people, and yet...
 
I don't think those lines from the song trivialises the loss of 6 million Jews because those lines actually provides impact to what the song is about. Everybody dies, and wars have been killing people for millennia, but the Holocaust was an occurrence like nothing else in history.
 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

.... but the Holocaust was an occurrence like nothing else in history.

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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

For me, those lines from (Hymn) just seem to trivialize what it's trying to address. A simplistic take on an extremely complex situation.

Why not attack this god for the total 60 million people estimated to have died during that particular conflict?

I won't say the lyrics attack "God" regarding Holocaust, as they see the Holocaust as pure human matter - "God" is very probably non-existing here, and at least non-acting in human matters.


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Lot of mentions to EL&P but I still haven't seen any Jon Anderson quoted.

From "Sound Out The Galleon - Olias Of Sunhillow"

Do ga riytan sha too raytan

Gan matta sha pa
Mutto mutto mutto

Radan atto raddan atto
Stou to mutto sha go teka
Sha go teka
Dei

But this from "Sound And Color - Toltec" is a reference to Castaneda's books

Sound can acknowledge and reveal
The very nature of the body line
Color coexists as a meter to the soul
Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Lot of mentions to EL&P but I still haven't seen any Jon Anderson quoted.

From "Sound Out The Galleon - Olias Of Sunhillow"

Do ga riytan sha too raytan

Gan matta sha pa
Mutto mutto mutto

Radan atto raddan atto
Stou to mutto sha go teka
Sha go teka
Dei


Oh come on!!  That is high poetry!!  LOL  

I filmed "Flight of the Moorglade" at a Jon Anderson "Voice of Yes" concert, it is my favorite song from "Olias!" 
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