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Drachen Theaker
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Topic: Ian Gillan Band = Prog? Posted: October 26 2005 at 18:28 |
If Deep Purple can get in the Archives then so should the Ian Gillan Band (1975-77 version) as they were far more prog IMO, although not necessarily a better band of course!
Clear Air Turbulence is basically a prog/fusion album while the second side of Child in Time has an excellent jazzy version of the famous title track and Let it Slide is 11 minutes of wonderfully spacey prog rock.
Their third album Scarabus features less adventurous material and is more questionable, but two albums out of three ain't bad and it's a better strike rate than Purple (and probably equal to the Genesis 'prog album percentage' for that matter). At the very least they should go in the prog-related section.
Even Ian's subsequent band Gillan, which is basically hard rock a la Purple, did quite a few proggy numbers - Born to Kill, Abbey of Thelema, On The Rocks, Second Sight and Demon Driver among them.
Anyway, I'd be interested to see if anyone agrees about IGB.
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 00:36 |
Drachen Theaker wrote:
Clear Air Turbulence is basically a prog/fusion album |
I do agree with this, but it's one album I've enjoyed less as time as gone on ... the other Gillan solo stuff I've heard ... Scarabus, Cherkazoo, Dreamcatcher, Toolbox and an awful one with Glover ... don't come close ...
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 11:16 |
I haven't heard that album for a while, but yeah I seem to remember that it was a pretty jazzy album. I love the Gillan album 'Glory Road' though, and there are some proggy moments, mainly the stunning keyboard solos of Colin Towns and the guitar work of John McCoy. On the whole though, Gillan's stuff is even more blues rock based than Deep Purple were...I'm not 100% against their inclusion but I think other bands could be added first.
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 11:44 |
Wasn't he in Monty Python? You know, the American guy, who did the animated work?
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 07:32 |
I'd rather not he be included; he did sing in the rock opera JC Superstar (he was Jesus) , but that is not enough for inclusion;
Even in the late 70's when I was actively searching for all Purple offshoots I never liked his solo albums! I hadGlory Road and Scarabus ( I think this one is incredibly rare now) and they sounded like sub-par hard rock. Rainbow and Whitesnake , yes but Gillan , no thanks!!
I never heard of the CAT fusion album, though
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 08:04 |
Yes
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 04:04 |
Sadly, I didn't come across CAT - I would have enjoyed the jazzy approach reported by others. I can only say here that Gillan has a sensational voice and I'd be happy to see him included regardless of criteria - applied very losely at times...!
I'd rate him as one of the best singers along with Paul Rodgers and Gilmour. Sorry, I am not a Gabriel fan though. So, if Gillan has no room here, than many others could be removed - pronto...?
He sang Jesus and he sang it well, I couldn't think of anyone who would have made that appropriate impact back then. He sang well too when I last saw Purple and his down to earth approach to the audience was a pleasant change - from a "superstar". He earned my respect on the human level too, along with his contribution to music. To Gillan? Yes, please!
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 04:38 |
Hmmm, I also have had IAN GILLAN on my mind as well, some of his work may be classified PROG or PROG RELATED.
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 05:02 |
IGB was about a thousand times more prog than Purple. Writing this started Five Moons running through my head- now I'll have to put something else on to get it out.
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Drachen Theaker
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 15:24 |
Interesting to read people's differing views. I only think the Ian Gillan Band 1975-77 version should be included in the Archives (ie the one that featured Ray Fenwick, Mark Nauseef etc), not the later 'Gillan' band (with Mick Underwood, John McCoy) which was more hard rock-oriented (though still proggier than Whitesnake, Sean! ). Albums such as Child in Time (which I like) and Clear Air Turbulence (not so fond of) are much closer to prog than just about anything in Purple's canon, bar Concerto for Group and Orchestra. And talking of DP spin-offs, Jon Lord's solo stuff should definitely be on here as well - he's done more 'prog' albums than Ian Gillan!
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 05:11 |
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