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Poll Question: So.. are you dropping acid or having red eyes, or are you clean?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 23:53

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Alcohol is my only poison.

Well, I heard you like to do crack....Stern Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 16:00
No, I’m sprinkly clean!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2006 at 14:52
Originally posted by video vertigo video vertigo wrote:

you don't need drugs, when you listen to music that creates the same affects with much more exciting side effects.




My opinion!

I've never taken drugs and I won't take them in the future!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2006 at 20:08

I can't accept all you saying "I never did drugs, I don't need that, I prefer music"... How the hell can pretend that when you know what the effects are? I'm sorry, that's just over me. I can go with someone saying he doesn't like drugs, or just think music better, but he has to at least have done it once to have an unbiaised opinion...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 04:14
I never did music - I don't need that; I never tried it I prefer drugs    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 05:24
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Tried weed twice. Hated it. Never again. Alcohol doesn't interest me now, either.


Tried weed once, about 13 years ago...
and did it again only 29 895 times

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 08:21
Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

"I had a bad experience with drugs once. It lasted ten years.

 I knew I had a problem when Bob Marley fell out of my left nostril." - Kinky Friedman



Good call on the Kinky Friedman quote.


I have a love/hate relationship with drugs, marijauna in particular. Yes, I smoke it every so often - about once a month (though more in the summer and less in the winter, but this is an average).

I've since been able to access the parts of my mind I've accessed through marijauna through focused meditation, though it takes a longer time to get in that state and it's much easier to break out of it. The thing about marijauna is it forces you into that state until the effects wear off, whereas it's much harder to attain such a state through meditation. However, when I have found myself within said state, it's far more intense than anytime while I was high. According to some Buddhist traditions, it's actually just a mere step to enlightenment. So if you smoke pot often, you're really just cheating yourself by thinking you have found the highest state of being when it's really just the gateway to even better states.

That being said, I still smoke pot occassionally because it's fun. I'm not looking to attain higher states of being with marijuana because I realize that I won't. The function of marijauna to me, at this point, is simply to indulge a little - just like one eats junk food, drinks alcohol, or engages in other uneccessary but enjoyable activities. Perhaps it might be better for me to stop, but I doubt it can do any amount of damage that will seriously destroy my abilities/talents.



Oh, and making music while high is fun but sounds like crap. Everyone knows that. I prefer to make music while I'm sober, because it's plain that it's better.
Go and listen to my music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 08:41
"I'm not looking to attain higher states of being with marijuana because I realize that I won't"

You can say it's artificial, but the fact is that you're in a higher level of consciousness.

And what's interesting is that you become aware of the
terrible "ordinary" state of mind.

That's what our french writter poet Charles Duits wrote in substance about his Peyotl experience:

"I was expecting dreams, illusions, like the Beaudelaire descriptions, and instead, the Peyotl revealed me reality, the land of real".
That's why he renamed "Hallucinogens" : "Lucidogens".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 13:20
In the end, you won't attain a higher state of mind with Marijuana.

Though it boosts you to the preliminary levels, you find yourself unable to progress higher if you use marijauna to certain degrees.

The only reason I still do it occasionally is because it's a tad bit different than just meditating, since you can't be distracted from your state as easily. That's fun, and in my opinion, is harmless if I only do it once in a while (which is less than once a month these days).
Go and listen to my music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 14:59
Weed is neutral IMO.
It only exagerates your initial state of mind.
It can increases your thought flow as it can help you to reach inner silence.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 16:01

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Weed is neutral IMO.
It only exagerates your initial state of mind.
It can increases your thought flow as it can help you to reach inner silence.

For me, weed can be a very liberating experience, I find that it helps get my mind out of ruts, that is, usual ways of thinking that I don't question any longer. Weed helps me respond slightly differently, usually with more good humor and intellectual curiosity, than if I'm just having a regular day, tuning out most of the phenomena around me, thinking of the usual stuff.

I agree with the earlier post that pot needs to be used sparingly, like once or a month or so, in order for its effects to be most appreciated. And that's the hard part for me sometimes, to not obsess about it and think about doing it. I try to forget that I even have it around.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2006 at 18:18
That's true
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2006 at 17:56
 I used to think I had to be high or drunk to fully appreciate good music,  but now that Im clean and sober music sounds better than ever. And I find my tastes in music are more refined.  Not much Sabbath and Zeppelin these days, more Bach and Mozart LOL. Actually pot just makes me depressed and paranoid anymore. Im too old for that sh*t hehe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2006 at 18:52
Never tried smoking anything. Don't plan too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2006 at 09:32
never taken drugs and I don't plan to
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