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The Doctor
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 21:29 |
I'm a pretty big fan of both JA and JS. I have almost all of the JA albums, minus their very first one. I also have all of the JS albums which had Marty Balin, but the only Mickey Thomas JS album I have is Modern Times. Fairly decent album. I also have all of Paul Kantner's "solo" albums and if you don't have Dragonfly, you are missing out on a great JS album, even if it wasn't an official JS release. The band was all there. Check out the song Hyperdrive for some great proggy stuff, I love the line "I never thought there were corners in time, till I was told to stand in one."
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Zac M
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 22:03 |
The Doctor wrote:
I'm a pretty big fan of both JA and JS. I have
almost all of the JA albums, minus their very first one. I also
have all of the JS albums which had Marty Balin, but the only Mickey
Thomas JS album I have is Modern Times. Fairly decent
album. I also have all of Paul Kantner's "solo" albums and if you
don't have Dragonfly, you are missing out on a great JS album, even if
it wasn't an official JS release. The band was all there.
Check out the song Hyperdrive for some great proggy stuff, I love the
line "I never thought there were corners in time, till I was told to
stand in one." |
Yeah, I really need to get Dragonfly, and I've heard "Hyperdrive,"
great song. "Awakening" is another great proggy track off of Freedom at
Point Zero.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 23:15 |
meurglysIII wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I'm a pretty big fan of both JA and JS. I have almost all of the JA albums, minus their very first one. I also have all of the JS albums which had Marty Balin, but the only Mickey Thomas JS album I have is Modern Times. Fairly decent album. I also have all of Paul Kantner's "solo" albums and if you don't have Dragonfly, you are missing out on a great JS album, even if it wasn't an official JS release. The band was all there. Check out the song Hyperdrive for some great proggy stuff, I love the line "I never thought there were corners in time, till I was told to stand in one." |
Yeah, I really need to get Dragonfly, and I've heard "Hyperdrive," great song. "Awakening" is another great proggy track off of Freedom at Point Zero.
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I have Spitfire ... and it's got some decent stuff too ... I think the Kantner songs Dance With the Dragon and Song to the Sun: Ozymandias/Don't Let It Rain are best (I wouldn't really call them proggy, but they are interesting), the Slick tunes are very listenable ... Balin's tunes don't stand out though and the one sung by Barbata is awful ...
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Sean Trane
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 03:29 |
The best Jefferson Starship album is Blows Against The Empire although this is a Kantner?slick solo album.
I would say that the Jeff Starship are still correct until 77 and Mitales track , but they were on a steady downward slide and it slid even faster down the drain after that.
As for the Starship albums
We Buit this City On RNR was roghtfully voted as the worst single track to have topped the charts. Really annoying tune that was force-fed and brainwashed to the masses. The 80's were really troubled times!
at least the Jefferson part of the name had been forcefully taken away after a court case!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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The Doctor
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 19:15 |
I almost forgot. The JS reunion album Windows of Heaven was awesome. Of course the only two members who returned were Paul and Marty. But Jack Casady of JA was also involved. A very, very, very good cd. I highly recommend it to fans of the band.
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Zac M
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:52 |
Cool picture of JA I found
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Zac M
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:07 |
Has anyone heard Slick's solo material? I was wondering which was the best to get first...
Manhole
Dreams
Welcome to the Wreckingball
Software (Is this like We Built this City??? )
Any others???? (I've heard the collaborations though)
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Sean Trane
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Posted: December 02 2005 at 03:27 |
The safest bet is to start chronologically!
I never heard any of it (maybe a bit of Dreams when it came out), but I would suspect that the quality of her solo album took the same trend that JA and then JS did!!
But this is an assumption and not certainty!
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Certif1ed
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Posted: December 02 2005 at 07:19 |
meurglysIII wrote:
Has anyone heard Slick's solo material? I was wondering which was the best to get first...
Any others???? (I've heard the collaborations though)
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Great Society... sort of...
"Conspicuous Only By It's Absence" is fantastic, and fascinating if you like the 1960s Jefferson Airplane material.
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Zac M
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Posted: December 02 2005 at 14:41 |
Sean Trane wrote:
The safest bet is to start chronologically!
I never heard any of it (maybe a bit of Dreams when it came out),
but I would suspect that the quality of her solo album took the same
trend that JA and then JS did!!
But this is an assumption and not certainty! |
Yes, that's what I figured, but wasn't entirely sure. I enjoy Nuclear
Furniture, but still...by looking at the album covers chronologically,
it seems her careerwent to the pits when JS changed to just Starship.
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Bulbous 45
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 19:09 |
stebo32 wrote:
haha im 16, and well.. ha...
But yea, I like the Grace from the 60's.. you crazy, I dont dig a 65 yr old... I just hope I could time travel to the 60's
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Man, I feel the exact same way! Traveling back to the 1960's would be great; I would see all my favorate psychedelic bands when they were in their prime, I'd buy sh*tload of underground comix(and possibly meat the ZAP comix team), and not only that, but LSD was legal for a while back then( so of course, I'd have to try that).
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Politician
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 06:24 |
meurglysIII wrote:
Has anyone heard Slick's solo material? I was wondering which was the best to get first... IMG] Manhole IMG] Dreams WreckingBall.jpg"> Welcome to the Wreckingball Slick_SoftwareWeb.jpg"> Software (Is this like We Built this City???) Any others???? (I've heard the collaborations though)
| "Manhole" is a patchy album, but it contains two excellent orchestrated progressive tracks - "Theme From The Movie 'Manhole'" (15 minutes) and "Epic (#38)" (7 minutes). "Dreams" is her best solo album, with some excellent symphonic rock tracks (especially on the first side). "Welcome To The Wrecking Ball" is a dumb heavy rock album, but fun in parts. "Software" is awful eighties electro-pop, although the closing track "Bikini Atoll" is really beautiful.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 12:39 |
Certif1ed wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
Has anyone heard Slick's solo material? I was wondering which was the best to get first...
Any others???? (I've heard the collaborations though)
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Great Society... sort of...
"Conspicuous Only By It's Absence" is fantastic, and fascinating if you like the 1960s Jefferson Airplane material.
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Great Society (lead by brother-in-law Darby Slick surely) predates Jefferson Airplane, and their live album is strongly recommended for some real proto-pro - (recorded 1965?) - the version of White Rabbit (especially with it psychedelic arabo-jazz rock opening) is so much better than the increasingly tired versions heard on JA live recordings.
Isn't Triad a song written about Gracie as one of 3 in a bed...................................
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Trotsky
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 13:06 |
stebo32 wrote:
haha im 16, and well.. ha...
But yea, I like the Grace from the 60's.. you crazy, I dont dig a 65 yr old... I just hope I could time travel to the 60's
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C'mon Stebo, drop the age-ism ... true desire burns more intensely
with time. Besides it's not as if 65 year-olds don't have something to
offer ... just ask Sean Trane ... he'll be turning 65 soon and
apparently his virility is legendary ... or so he told me!
Back to the Gracie fest ...
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 15:38 |
^hahaha... that's good to know!
Now to keep the Gracie fest going... Which is your favorite Jefferson Airplane song?!?!?! (with her singing)... I like WOODEN SHIPS, but a song in which only SHE sings, I'd say WHITE RABBIT!
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Zac M
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 15:42 |
stebo32 wrote:
^hahaha... that's good to know!
Now to keep the Gracie fest going...
Which is your favorite Jefferson Airplane song?!?!?! (with her
singing)... I like WOODEN SHIPS, but a song in which only SHE sings,
I'd say WHITE RABBIT! |
Like I said, I prefer JS, Miracles is one of my favorite songs
ever. "White Rabbit" is indeed an incredible song though.
What about "We Built This City?" Any takers
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Bulbous 45
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 16:59 |
My favorate would have to be Rejoyce off of "After Bathing At Baxter's"(possibly the best album the best album the Jefferson Airplane ever did)
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Trotsky
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 23:00 |
Bulbous 45 wrote:
My favorate would have to be Rejoyce off of "After Bathing At Baxter's"(possibly the best album the best album the Jefferson Airplane ever did) |
Yes, After Bathing is probably my favourite album ... but the ultimate Grace Slick tune for me has to be Lather off Crown Of Creation.
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Sean Trane
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 03:21 |
Trotsky wrote:
stebo32 wrote:
haha im 16, and well.. ha...
But yea, I like the Grace from the 60's.. you crazy, I dont dig a 65 yr old... I just hope I could time travel to the 60's
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C'mon Stebo, drop the age-ism ... true desire burns more intensely with time. Besides it's not as if 65 year-olds don't have something to offer ... just ask Sean Trane ... he'll be turning 65 soon and apparently his virility is legendary ... or so he told me!
Back to the Gracie fest ...
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And even if she is not the looker anymore , I betcha she is the one of best bed-wrestling partner you could find even in her sixties!! Certainly more of a lady than most of those prima donnas likes Britney etc....
I am not so sure I would refuse a one on one with Gracie, just because she is a legend!!!
Well men can also be starf***ers, no?!?
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Trotsky
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 05:58 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
stebo32 wrote:
haha im 16, and well.. ha...
But yea, I like the Grace from the 60's.. you crazy, I dont dig a 65 yr old... I just hope I could time travel to the 60's
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C'mon Stebo, drop the age-ism ... true desire burns more intensely with time. Besides it's not as if 65 year-olds don't have something to offer ... just ask Sean Trane ... he'll be turning 65 soon and apparently his virility is legendary ... or so he told me!
Back to the Gracie fest ...
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And even if she is not the looker anymore , I betcha she is the one of best bed-wrestling partner you could find even in her sixties!! Certainly more of a lady than most of those prima donnas likes Britney etc....
I am not so sure I would refuse a one on one with Gracie, just because she is a legend!!!
Well men can also be starf***ers, no?!?
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Since stebo is going through a hippie phase he might be interested to know that Yoko Ono is just 74 years young ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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