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    Posted: November 30 2005 at 15:51
I've been a fan of Greenslade for a while now and i see them as a very underated band. I now have the 4 albums they recorded in 1973-5 and enjoy each one of them. I am aware though, that they recorded a new album, 'Large Afternoon', in 2000 with John Young and Chris Cozens replacing Dave Lawson and Andy Mculloch. Ive been very thempted to buy this album but have a feeling at the back of my mind that i'll be very dissapointed. Does any one own this album? Can you tell me whether its worth my money? 
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Well, my dad bought this album a few years ago when it came out and he hated it; I do remember it sounded far more like Asia than Greenslade (and my dad detests Asia).

Don't know if you're aware that Dave Greenslade recorded a solo album in 1975 called 'Cactus Choir'? If you have the Greenslade albums then that one's worth having too; I don't think much of it personally but you may enjoy it...
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I love these old albums from Greenslade but "Large afternoon" was a huge disappointment to me. Like Salmacis said, a lush version of aor and I'm not even his dad. Nothing on that album reminds me to the vintage Greenslade sound.
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I agree with the comments about Large Afternoon - a major disappointment with none of the inventive progginess of the 70s albums.

Cactus Choir is well worth acquiring though, if you can find it. It's practically a group album with Tony Reeves on bass and terrific drumming from Simon Philips. Steve Gould also contributes some very enjoyable Peter Gabriel-like vocals on Gettysburg (my favourite track) and the title number.

I'm happy to say I've just managed to track down the poster of the Roger Dean artwork for Cactus Choir, which I think is the best he ever did. You can get it (and other Roger Dean stuff) at:

http://www.artistsuk.co.uk/acatalog/ARTISTS_UK__ROGER_DEAN_2 2.html
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I'll have to give 'Cactus Choir' another listen; some of the keyboards weren't to my taste here, but I agree the sleeve is stunning. Greenslade got the best of Roger Dean's covers alongside Uriah Heep imo.
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What About 'Pentateuch of the Cosmogany', is that any good?
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I had that one a few years ago on vinyl, and undeniably the packaging was beautiful, but I can't remember anything at all about the music- odd as the Greenslade albums were amongst the first in prog I ever loved. The reviews of this album say it's a bit of a duffer too...
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Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I had that one a few years ago on vinyl, and undeniably the packaging was beautiful, but I can't remember anything at all about the music- odd as the Greenslade albums were amongst the first in prog I ever loved. The reviews of this album say it's a bit of a duffer too...

Penteteuch is a case of "nice packaging, shame about the record". It's not terrible, just well short of DG's previous standards with rather cheesy synth sounds. It reminds me of Dr Who incidental music.

Definitely check out Cactus Choir again though, Salmacis. There are several good instrumentals like Finale, Swings and Roundabouts and Forever and Ever, and only one or two dodgy tracks (Time Takes My Time).
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I had a few early Greenslade albums. The music was good but I did not like the singers voice.
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Originally posted by Froth Froth wrote:

What About 'Pentateuch of the Cosmogany', is that any good?

I OWN A COPY; IT'S A VERY GOOD ALBUM WITH LONG SPACEY KEYBOARDS.
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Originally posted by flaxton flaxton wrote:

I had a few early Greenslade albums. The music was good but I did not like the singers voice.

You're right there. I've got Time and Tide - I like it instrumentally but the singing is awful.
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Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

Originally posted by Froth Froth wrote:

What About 'Pentateuch of the Cosmogany', is that any good?

I OWN A COPY; IT'S A VERY GOOD ALBUM WITH LONG SPACEY KEYBOARDS.


Stop shouting - take the caps lock off!
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by flaxton flaxton wrote:

I had a few early Greenslade albums. The music was good but I did not like the singers voice.

You're right there. I've got Time and Tide - I like it instrumentally but the singing is awful.

'Time and Tide' is the weakest album for me; I think most tracks had vocals and the songs were often quite poppy. Not played it for a few years though...
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Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by flaxton flaxton wrote:

I had a few
early Greenslade albums. The music was good but I did not like the
singers voice.
You're right there. I've got Time and Tide - I
like it instrumentally but the singing is awful.


'Time and Tide' is the weakest album for me; I think most tracks had
vocals and the songs were often quite poppy. Not played it for a few years
though...



Time and Tide is clearly the BEST album they ever made by a huge
distance.

Reason being(as unlikely as it would seem):

This is a band that worked far better as a bunch of PopProg hippies than
they ever did as a hardcore Prog band.

Reason #2: Martin Briley was a very talented kid who bought a great
songwriting sensibility to the table.

Hence:

This record features the best SONGS and best PRODUCTION by MILES, in
spite of it's Pop leanings.

Same could be said for Nektar "Down to Earth".

There you have it.

The intransmutable truth.

SM.

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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 20:26
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

Originally posted by Froth Froth wrote:

What About 'Pentateuch of the Cosmogany', is that any good?

I OWN A COPY; IT'S A VERY GOOD ALBUM WITH LONG SPACEY KEYBOARDS.


Stop shouting - take the caps lock off!
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Originally posted by SlipperFink SlipperFink wrote:

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by flaxton flaxton wrote:

I had a few
early Greenslade albums. The music was good but I did not like the
singers voice.
You're right there. I've got Time and Tide - I
like it instrumentally but the singing is awful.


'Time and Tide' is the weakest album for me; I think most tracks had
vocals and the songs were often quite poppy. Not played it for a few years
though...



Time and Tide is clearly the BEST album they ever made by a huge
distance.

Reason being(as unlikely as it would seem):

This is a band that worked far better as a bunch of PopProg hippies than
they ever did as a hardcore Prog band.

Reason #2: Martin Briley was a very talented kid who bought a great
songwriting sensibility to the table.

Hence:

This record features the best SONGS and best PRODUCTION by MILES, in
spite of it's Pop leanings.

Same could be said for Nektar "Down to Earth".

There you have it.

The intransmutable truth.

SM.

I kinda see whee your coming from... Time and Tide has some killer songs on like 'Animal Farm' and 'doldrums' however for me its over shadowed by 'Spy Glass Guest' easily there finest hour

 
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The only one I've got is Bedside Manners (the only Greenslade I've ever seen!) ... a four star album to be sure ... but most people seemed to indicate that it was the best ... good to see people championing Spyglass Guest and Time & Tide too ... 
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"BEDSIDE MANNERS ARE EXTRA"  IS THEIR BEST ALBUM.THEN COMES "GREENSLADE" AND "SPYGLASS GUEST".
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

Originally posted by Froth Froth wrote:

What About 'Pentateuch of the Cosmogany', is that any good?

I OWN A COPY; IT'S A VERY GOOD ALBUM WITH LONG SPACEY KEYBOARDS.


Stop shouting - take the caps lock off!

MA COSTE VE' DA ME'!!!
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Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

"BEDSIDE MANNERS ARE EXTRA"  IS THEIR BEST ALBUM.THEN COMES "GREENSLADE" AND "SPYGLASS GUEST".

Finally found (and bought) "Bedside Manners..." a few days ago...I like it quite a bit...the instrumental passages are fascinating and the vocals are...uh, OK...not horrible, as I had read...actually, their lyrics are refreshingly unpretentious.

Definitely a 4-star CD, IMHO.

It sure would be nice to hear the remastered version, but it's not worth $39.00.

( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002MOM4G/sr=8-2/qid=11436 46114/ref=sr_1_2/104-8336223-0883152?%5Fencoding=UTF8  )
The original (and very creepy) cover of THE STEVE HOWE ALBUM...hint...look in the water...
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