The Dillinger Escape Plan

this forums getting a little out of control!  lol. well people here seem pretty angry and/or are extremely opinionated so ill try not to get torn appart by said angry people... i (who like Opeth very much) find Dillenger Escape Plan close to unlistenable... though i do not discount their musical ability by any means. talented they may be, but they dont fully bring it together. The vocals are the biggest let down and the biggest problem i have with this "metal-core" band and extreme lack of melody also runs rampant throughout their albums. I also find that their songs start to sound the same  when listened to more than, oh say zero times IMVHO. now that might not be the same for you but i cant take much more than one song till im pummeled to the ground with my ears bleeding... wow turns out i was pretty opionated too... please dont hurt me ...

edit: ps   technical execution should NOT be the only requirement that gets a band classified as "progressive" i know of some EXTREMELY talented musicians who are not by any stretch prog. If technical ability is all that gets a band on the prog bus... then i dont believe they should have the honor of calling themselves "prog". (and no im not saying the DEP doesnt combine some weird time sig.s or anything like that... but come on) ill save any other anti-DEP thoughts for another forum and try to stay passive. 

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thanks man! i try my best...

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goose wrote: Nyko wrote: I can't stand anything-core. How do you know they were atrocious, then?

    I understand what you are meaning by that, but it is a bit ridiculous. If I can't stand metalcore then I would most likeyl find many metalcore acts to be atrocious. "Atrocious", being a very opinionative and subjective words, could be applied to anything that is bad to me, despite any variables, circumstances, prenotions, or genre classification.
    On to what I think you meant. I have a bandmate that likes a lot of metalcore, so I hear a lot more of it than I would like to. Having that said, it isn't as good as some of the metalcore I have listened to that had some merit. I think DEP may be technical talented SOMEWHAT, but without ways to apply that correctly it doesn't mean very much. Hats off to them for learning their instruments better than many core bands, but they aren't really much better in the way of music. The music I listen must have melody, no matter how hard it is, and DEP seems to ignore that for energy. The show was terrible in ways of showmanship. Although going out on a limb to be entertaining is good in most cases, as not to stand their playing in a boring fashion (Dream Theater and Opeth, bands that I like), they sacrificed the musical quality, proving to be even worse than what I have heard from studio.
    I wouldn't care so much if this band did not leave such a negative impression on me and then I go to see it winding up in the archives. No, I am not fighting to have them removed or anything like that, it doesn't bother me, I just saw the chance to voice my opinion on that. I feel so much more art in Opeth's music, and that is a key quality to me, something that I look for (although it can transcend into pretentiousness.) I do not, however, like the direction that Opeth is heading, but even if they continued in this path, sold-out, cut their hair and hooked up with bob rock, I would take them over DEP.

Goose, it's the first time I've seen you get emotional about a band.

Goose is a DEP fanboy, Goose is a DEP fanboy, Goose is... sorry

Ahem. I think Slipperfink's summed it all up well - you don't have to like their image etc. but they sure know their way around the instruments. Especially Chris Pennie, the drummer and nut.  I really enjoy them for the most part.

And that metal versus hxc thing is in my "Most ridiculous" top 20.

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Manunkind wrote: Goose, it's the first time I've seen you get emotional about a band. Goose is a DEP fanboy, Goose is a DEP fanboy, Goose is... sorry Ahem. I think Slipperfink's summed it all up well - you don't have to like their image etc. but they sure know their way around the instruments. Especially Chris Pennie, the drummer and nut.  I really enjoy them for the most part. And that metal versus hxc thing is in my "Most ridiculous" top 20.

I'm not even that into DEP compared to some other bands . I'm sure I've said equally happy things about Kayo Dot or King Crimson in the past, and thought them about TMV and Soft Machine, Fantomas, Cynic and Gentle Giant among others (just couldn't bring myself to write it, I guess )

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