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    Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:22
just thought id say that, since i made a thread about it in the lounge
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Points: 31157 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 18:06
Have only heard a few tracks by them. Very nice music, but im not sure if they're prog..
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 19:03

....They're not.

Have you anything else to offer other than "add Steely Dan"?
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Points: 2530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 19:46
I love Steely Dan - they are excellent in fact - saw them once - however -lets NOT add them
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 20:01
Steely Dan are amazing, but not Prog or Prog related!
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2006 at 21:36

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Steely Dan are amazing, but not Prog or Prog related!

I agree.I love Steely Dan but fail to see any reason to include them in the archives.


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Great band, but unfortunately not fit for the Archives!!
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Points: 10377 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2006 at 16:45
not fit for the archives, and I don't like them either. clever lyrics, but musically they bore me to death


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not that I'm saying anything that hasn't been said but.............


Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Steely Dan are amazing, but not Prog or Prog related!




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Points: 122 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2006 at 20:26

Love 'em, but, yeh, not prog.

They aren't even "fusion". Their melodies and instrumentation are jazzy, but that just makes them jazz-influenced pop/rock. Nothing to do with prog at all.

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Points: 100 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2006 at 14:50
SD are one of my favourite bands too. They are incredibly gifted musicians and great song writers. However, their whole ethos is urban, American hip and cool, whil prog is, to me at any rate provinicial, English, and somehow other-wordly, so Steely Dan don't belong here at all!
 
 
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Points: 822 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2006 at 21:39
  Just love them esp. their 'Two Against Nature ' DVD [ a must get ], but try as I may to find reasons to include them with their fusion influences, I can't fit them either.
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Points: 24391 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 11:48
Great band, but not prog at all. I wish people would stop thinking that being in PA is a sort of badge of honour, as if those bands/artists who are not were somewhat second division.
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Points: 822 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 21:39
  TO GHOST WRITER:
 
  I'm not sure if your observations were directed at my last post or just in general, but in my own defence, I say as follows:
 
  As I understand it, bands don't make it into 'The Archives' primarily because they and/or their music do not satisfy the specific criteria . Certainly, as far as I am concerned, this in no way detracts from my enjoyment of the band or leads me to a conclusion that they are somehow inferior. From my point of view, your criticism  is misplaced . It is more to do with what being admitted to PA affords a band and its fans rather than their perceived quality. We all know and realise the advantages of bands being included, otherwise we would not subscribe. So, imo it is more about the great benefits of PA rather than the merits or otherwise of individual bands/artists and their music.
 
  To put things more simply, its great to have a band I like admitted because I can find out so much about them, their music and activities than I ever would otherwise and this is what is so great about PA. I don't buy the "badge of honour " thing as being important, although I suppose those who successfully propose some band may feel vindicated.
 
  AS far as STEELY DAN being in anything other than the first division? Man, they're on the top of the table.
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Points: 822 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 21:47
  My apologies to GHOST RIDER. My misnaming of you must be due to some kind of Freudian slip!
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Points: 24391 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 01:03
Apologies accepted! Wink If a ghost writer earns more money than I do in my current job, I'd very gladly become one...LOL

Back to the topic, I feel I have to apologise myself for sounding as if I intended to criticise you, Mrgd - I actually didn't. Mine was just a general remark directed at all those people who suggest including their favourite bands or artists on the grounds that "it's great, so it must be prog". This is what I have noticed in the year or so I've been spending as a member of PA - and I'm sure that other people agree with me.
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Points: 822 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 03:32
 TO GHOST RIDER:
  I agree and the best thing about PA is that it gives us all the opportunity to discuss issues like this all born out of our common interests in music esp. prog. Bravo PA!
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Great music, one of my favs!
Very peculiar blend of many genres, hard to describe, quite sophisticated, typically American LA sound. Jazz, r'n'b, funk, pop, orchestral arrangements, studio perfectionists... but hardly prog rock. However, I would not object their possible addition to PA.
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Points: 3064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2006 at 07:14
They're not prog!!!
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