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    Posted: October 19 2006 at 20:56
i like the album GREEN.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2006 at 03:05
L is my fav. awesome production of Todd Rundgren, amazing Don Cherry (this days member of Todd Rundgren's Utopia, & recorded his legendary albums for ECM production too),  in " Lunar Music Suite", the track which they made in the studio in Woodstock, New York, only in the full moon nights Approve
 
i like his todays works also,, Hillage is still in progressive music. coz he's a genius.(IMO) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2006 at 09:41
Thanks for the info, but what the **** is techno?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 12:35
Originally posted by Cheesecakemouse

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I really like Khan, shame they didn't stay together, but because of that I'll have to keep a look out for Fish Rising (and also Egg but that has little relevance to this thread)

    
If you haven't already, get the Arzachel album - Steve played under the pseudonym Simon Sasparilla because of legal issues - indeed, the whole band played under pseudonyms - but in Steve's case, it was largely because of his age (he was 17). It's an incredible album, not least when you consider his age.

Steve's talent for turning blues licks into something altogether more out of this world is highly enviable, and Miquette Giraudy's synth work is near-miraculous at times. I think his best "rock" album is "Fish Rising".

The System 7 stuff is quite amazing too, ranging from the ambience of "777" to the near full-on techno on "Power of Seven" that pretty much paved the way to the Trance explosion in the late 1990s, of which a goodly proportion is progressive.

You could hear the electronica thing developing in his music in the quirky "For to Next" and "And Not Or" of the early 1980s - but I still hear those as fun curios rather than anything substantial, musically speaking.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 04:11
Originally posted by Certif1ed

Originally posted by Cheesecakemouse

I really like Khan, shame they didn't stay together, but because of that I'll have to keep a look out for Fish Rising (and also Egg but that has little relevance to this thread)

    
If you haven't already, get the Arzachel album - Steve played under the pseudonym Simon Sasparilla because of legal issues - indeed, the whole band played under pseudonyms - but in Steve's case, it was largely because of his age (he was 17). It's an incredible album, not least when you consider his age.

Steve's talent for turning blues licks into something altogether more out of this world is highly enviable, and Miquette Giraudy's synth work is near-miraculous at times. I think his best "rock" album is "Fish Rising".

The System 7 stuff is quite amazing too, ranging from the ambience of "777" to the near full-on techno on "Power of Seven" that pretty much paved the way to the Trance explosion in the late 1990s, of which a goodly proportion is progressive.

You could hear the electronica thing developing in his music in the quirky "For to Next" and "And Not Or" of the early 1980s - but I still hear those as fun curios rather than anything substantial, musically speaking.
 
Thanks a lot for the info!Wink



  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 21:50
 
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I'm with you on that one - the price stacks up well against UK festivals, and this is one where I'll enjoy pretty much everything on the bill and be able to see and hear it properly. And I won't be camping in a muddy field several miles from the main stage (been there, done that, got the unidentifiable stain on my t shirt).
 
Perhaps festivals in Europe are more reasonably priced than in the USA/UK?
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I agree about the camping--no way will I do that!!!!  We will be staying at the Amsterdam Central Bed and Breakfast.  I am looking forward to staying in a building that was built in the 1500's.  Remember, our country is nowhere near that old.   So for us Americans, it's pretty exciting!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 20:47
He did some beautiful music; all he did with rock music is between 4-5 stars, but pity he recorded so few albums, and I do not care for his new italo disco (or is it ambient?) phase. He should be more productive. Many people do not understand that It is better to make 5 masterpieces and 10 poor albums than 4 masterpieces and 0 poor albums.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 16:37
Originally posted by ViolinCyndee

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Thanks for the samples. OK, so we'll maybe meet each other in 'Dam, although the ticket price is outrageously high.
 
 
High?????????  Hmmmmmmmmm I thought it was a bargain for 3 days of GONG and Gong-related bands.  I am looking forward to seeing Steve play with Gong and the other ensembles he will be playing with!  (btw..  I will also be playing in the other room, coming from the US)
 
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I'm with you on that one - the price stacks up well against UK festivals, and this is one where I'll enjoy pretty much everything on the bill and be able to see and hear it properly. And I won't be camping in a muddy field several miles from the main stage (been there, done that, got the unidentifiable stain on my t shirt).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 14:21
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Thanks for the samples. OK, so we'll maybe meet each other in 'Dam, although the ticket price is outrageously high.
 
 
High?????????  Hmmmmmmmmm I thought it was a bargain for 3 days of GONG and Gong-related bands.  I am looking forward to seeing Steve play with Gong and the other ensembles he will be playing with!  (btw..  I will also be playing in the other room, coming from the US)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 07:41
His remasters are due out very soon of course, I believe. I liked the Khan album a lot, wasn't as enamoured with Arzachel but it's a good effort for the era of course.
 
My favourite Hillage one is 'Green'- a summation of all that's great about space rock. Some Hawkwind/Gong/Tangerine Dream style soundscapes throughout a superb album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 07:33
Originally posted by Cheesecakemouse

I really like Khan, shame they didn't stay together, but because of that I'll have to keep a look out for Fish Rising (and also Egg but that has little relevance to this thread)

    
If you haven't already, get the Arzachel album - Steve played under the pseudonym Simon Sasparilla because of legal issues - indeed, the whole band played under pseudonyms - but in Steve's case, it was largely because of his age (he was 17). It's an incredible album, not least when you consider his age.

Steve's talent for turning blues licks into something altogether more out of this world is highly enviable, and Miquette Giraudy's synth work is near-miraculous at times. I think his best "rock" album is "Fish Rising".

The System 7 stuff is quite amazing too, ranging from the ambience of "777" to the near full-on techno on "Power of Seven" that pretty much paved the way to the Trance explosion in the late 1990s, of which a goodly proportion is progressive.

You could hear the electronica thing developing in his music in the quirky "For to Next" and "And Not Or" of the early 1980s - but I still hear those as fun curios rather than anything substantial, musically speaking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 07:32
Originally posted by Syzygy

The techno beat isn't that strong on the System 7 I've heard, but it's definitely there. Point 3 was released in 'Fire' and 'Water' mixes; the Water mix was more ambient and left the beats out, so if you find the rhythm off putting maybe you will enjoy that one.
 

There are some short samples on their website http://www.a-wave.com/system7/

 

The discography is pretty informative as well.


Although I hate pidgeonholes, I think here is one instance I'll make an exception - System 7 is far closer to Psy-Trance than Techno; their sets tend to start off with a slow, almost chillout vibe, but slowly, they bring in richer textures and harder beats - before you know it, you're dancing like mad & don't know how you got there...

I was never lucky enough to see Hillage in the late 1970s, but I've seen System 7 many times:

    

For an album which best sums them up, I'd recommend 'Live Transmissions' if you can get hold of it - it was a free performance a couple of years ago they did in the studio & broadcast from the website.

He's now gone in a slightly different direction, too - his 'Mirror System' project is similar in feel to System 7, but more aimed at the chillout room, than the dance floor, and the album (released last year) is an absolute stunner...

One gripe - I found out last week, System 7 played in support of Ozric Tentacles in London a couple of weeks ago; don't know if it happened, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't a point at which Hillage was playing guitar with the Ozrics...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 07:24
Originally posted by Syzygy

Originally posted by Big Ears

I love the Salmon Song on Fish Rising. The L album is pretty good too.

What happened to Steve Hillage? 

 

 
In the 80s Steve Hillage moved away from writng/performing to work as a producer, including albums by Robyn Hitchcock and Simple Minds. Towards the end of the 80s he apparently went to a rave and heard Alex Patterson of The Orb playing Rainbow Dome Music as part of his set in a chill out room, and this led to Steve & Miquette working with The Orb on their excellent Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld album. They then went on to form their own ambient/techno outfit System 7, which also featured sometime Killing Joke/Orb member Youth, and Steve started doing remixes as well as his production work. Even if you're not into techno style music, give System 7 a try - Point 3 is a good place to start, but all the albums are worth a listen.


Talking Hillage & Techno - check out Gong You Are Remixed - the original album You is stretched to over double its length by remixing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 07:06

Thanks for the samples. OK, so we'll maybe meet each other in 'Dam, although the ticket price is outrageously high.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 07:04
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Thanks!

Do you plain to attend to Gong in Amsterdam in November?

 
I put a link in my previous post.
 
I hope to attend the Gong family Uncovention, but I won't find out what's happening with my job for another couple of weeks, so I haven't booked tickets yet.
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Thanks!

Do you plain to attend to Gong Amsterdam in November?


    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 06:59
The techno beat isn't that strong on the System 7 I've heard, but it's definitely there. Point 3 was released in 'Fire' and 'Water' mixes; the Water mix was more ambient and left the beats out, so if you find the rhythm off putting maybe you will enjoy that one.
 
There are some short samples on their website http://www.a-wave.com/system7/
 
The discography is pretty informative as well.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 06:50

Is there some "boom boom" beat on System 7, Chris?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 06:44
Originally posted by Big Ears

I love the Salmon Song on Fish Rising. The L album is pretty good too.

What happened to Steve Hillage? 

 

 
In the 80s Steve Hillage moved away from writng/performing to work as a producer, including albums by Robyn Hitchcock and Simple Minds. Towards the end of the 80s he apparently went to a rave and heard Alex Patterson of The Orb playing Rainbow Dome Music as part of his set in a chill out room, and this led to Steve & Miquette working with The Orb on their excellent Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld album. They then went on to form their own ambient/techno outfit System 7, which also featured sometime Killing Joke/Orb member Youth, and Steve started doing remixes as well as his production work. Even if you're not into techno style music, give System 7 a try - Point 3 is a good place to start, but all the albums are worth a listen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 05:21
Originally posted by Intruder

His style and mentality perfectly meshed with the Daevid Allen/Gong philosophy....but I agree with the underachiever tag.  There just aren't enough Hillage albums out there.....we need more vintage Hillage....open up the archives and let some of those old tapes out!


    

Try Gong live Sherwood forest 75'...
I did a review. Steve Hillage is on top form and there's some incredible "Fish rising" live material.
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