Forum Home Forum Home > Other music related lounges > General Music Discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Are the Beach Boys prog?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedAre the Beach Boys prog?

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message
Paleviper View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie


Joined: September 29 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 16
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 04:01
No

The Beach Boys and Brian Wilson in particular are brilliant, one of the highlights of last year for me was buying Brian Wilsons - Smile concived in 1969's and finally released in 2005 a work of genius but not what I would call progressive
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 05:27

In 1976, Alan Freeman, a well known British DJ had a Saturday afternoon rock show on the BBC in which he played a lot of wonderful music. At the end of the year, he did a run down of the 50 best selling rock albums of 1976. It included such great albums as "Ommadawn", "Led Zeppelin 4", "Viva - Roxy Music live", "Olias of Sunhillow", "L (Hillage), "Wish you were here", "Trick of the tail" etc.

I will never forget my disappointment, when after waiting two days to hear what the number one was, it turned out to be "The Beach Boys greatest hits"! Now I love the msuic of the Beach Boys, but a great rock album? I think not.

Back to Top
oliverstoned View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 26 2004
Location: France
Status: Offline
Points: 6308
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 05:53
Originally posted by Kid-A Kid-A wrote:

in a word,


<FONT size=7>NO


I think that if the beach boys go on here the site will loose all credibility



It will loose really much credibily than with Queen and Radiohead's inclusion?

Edited by oliverstoned
Back to Top
MikeEnRegalia View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 20158
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 06:13
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by Kid-A Kid-A wrote:

in a word,

NO


I think that if the beach boys go on here the site will loose all credibility



I will loose really much credibily than with Queen and Radiohead's inclusion?

 I guess you're not familiar with Radiohead ... if you were, you would not have asked someone with the nickname "Kid-A" ... 

Back to Top
oliverstoned View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 26 2004
Location: France
Status: Offline
Points: 6308
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2006 at 04:40
Yes, nice coincidence!
Back to Top
daz2112 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 18 2006
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 4483
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2006 at 14:33





                   NO!
In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole
Back to Top
Thyme Traveler View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: February 12 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 164
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2006 at 21:30
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

The Beach Boys influenced the Beatles a bit, and vice versa, so maybe they're proto-proto-prog or something like that . They're prog-related because of the intricate song structures and some epics. Maybe they're distant relatives, prog and the Beach Boys, but their is a relationship.

Brian Wilson's Smile is very much prog related. The album consists more or less of three long epics. Many prog fans will like this, highly recommended! It's the best new album I heard in the last three years.

 

I was about to say Pet Sounds was "proto-proto-prog" until I saw your post. The question is , is there enough "there" to consider it prog, and I think the answer is no.

Perhaps the Beach Boys were "Proto-Progressive Pop".

I think the Proto-Prog category is a little bit dangerous. Did Chuck Berry influence prog ? Certainly, just as he influenced all Rock music. Buddy Holly ?  Les Paul ?  Beethoven ? Pythagoras ? I think the Beatles are as far down that road as we want to go (and should go). Some of us didn't even want to go that far.

Back to Top
DrWizard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: March 18 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 101
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:38
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

What is the world coming to!?

Back to Top
Dragon Phoenix View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: August 31 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1475
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:40
Please let it stop.
Blog this:
http://artrock2006.blogspot.com
Back to Top
stonebeard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 28057
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2006 at 17:04
"Surfin' USA" was the first prog epic! Of Course they should be included!
Back to Top
Moogtron III View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
Status: Offline
Points: 10616
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 03:04
Originally posted by Thyme Traveler Thyme Traveler wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

The Beach Boys influenced the Beatles a bit, and vice versa, so maybe they're proto-proto-prog or something like that . They're prog-related because of the intricate song structures and some epics. Maybe they're distant relatives, prog and the Beach Boys, but their is a relationship.

Brian Wilson's Smile is very much prog related. The album consists more or less of three long epics. Many prog fans will like this, highly recommended! It's the best new album I heard in the last three years.

 

I was about to say Pet Sounds was "proto-proto-prog" until I saw your post. The question is , is there enough "there" to consider it prog, and I think the answer is no.

Perhaps the Beach Boys were "Proto-Progressive Pop".

I think the Proto-Prog category is a little bit dangerous. Did Chuck Berry influence prog ? Certainly, just as he influenced all Rock music. Buddy Holly ?  Les Paul ?  Beethoven ? Pythagoras ? I think the Beatles are as far down that road as we want to go (and should go). Some of us didn't even want to go that far.

I do think the Beach Boys with their subtle harmonies and adventurous production were an influence that can easily be underrated. You're right, though, with your Chuck Berry-remark. The Beach Boys weren't prog rock, but maybe proto-proto-prog pop.

Still, many prog fans would like Brian Wilson's Smile, I still mean that. Many would hate it too  , but it's also true that many would love it.

Back to Top
Dick Heath View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Jazz-Rock Specialist

Joined: April 19 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 12795
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2006 at 04:42
Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

There is more going on in the 2 and 1/2 minutes of Good Vibrations than in most 25 minute songs.

 

Always felt it was odd the stereo version was an afterthought........

Back to Top
Chicapah View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 14 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8238
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 12:26
If the Beach Boys are prog then so are Jan and Dean, especially for their song "The Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga Sewing Circle, Book Review and Timing Association."  I can't tell you how embarassing it is to admit that I can remember that song title.  Kinda like remembering Dave, Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tish.  Jeez....
"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
Back to Top
Meddler View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: September 29 2005
Location: Massillon
Status: Offline
Points: 881
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 17:03
If the Beach Boys are inducted to the archives, then surely Matisyahu should be.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.133 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.