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Thyme Traveler
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Topic: Fleetwood Mac Posted: February 27 2006 at 20:25 |
I used to think I was the only one who couldn't stand Fleetwood Mac. I basically kept it to myself until I met others who felt the same way I did... that Fleetwood Mac was the most overated band of the 70's... no melody, so-so musicianship, and the painfully terrible voice of Stevie Nicks.
Does anyone out there actually like Fleetwood Mac ? Or are they just lieing because it seems like liking them was the thing to do ?
Somebody has to like them I guess- they did sell all those records (or perhaps 8 tracks).
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cobb
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 21:07 |
Indeed someone did love them. Here are some stats on Rumours- the album: Rumours Fleetwood Mac Warner 3010 Released: February 1977 Chart Peak: #1 Weeks Charted: 134 Certified 13x Platinum: 3/1/89 One of those sales was to me.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 03:19 |
if you go back three pages on this forum you will see three threads created by me and commented by others. Three threads because of the three parts of their career.
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac: the blues rock period
Fleetwood Mac MK II: the transition years with constantly changing line-ups '71 to 76
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Fleetwood Mac - the soap operas - their love lifes exposed ABBA styled
Happy reading
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Kotro
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 04:37 |
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac is the best blues band in the world ever. Along with Ten Years After.
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Bigger on the inside.
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 05:27 |
Thyme Traveler wrote:
I used to think I was the only one who couldn't stand Fleetwood Mac. I basically kept it to myself until I met others who felt the same way I did... that Fleetwood Mac was the most overated band of the 70's... no melody, so-so musicianship, and the painfully terrible voice of Stevie Nicks.
Does anyone out there actually like Fleetwood Mac ? Or are they just lieing because it seems like liking them was the thing to do ?
Somebody has to like them I guess- they did sell all those records (or perhaps 8 tracks).
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Well, I'm guessing that I'm younger than you. Where I come from it was the opposite; to claim you liked FM, would be asking for it!!
I've never been a fan, but I've never hated them. In response to your points, I dont think they were especially short on melody, Stevie Nicks's voice is an acquired taste, I didn't mind it on certain tracks, and as for their musicanship, they didn't write songs that warranted musical virtuosity so it's hard to tell. I doubt the likes of Mick Fleetwood are up to prog standards..
I also dont think the 'Rumours' album really deserves all the praise and &rse licking it's enjoyed from rock journos over the years. It's full of incomplete sounding ideas, 'The Chain' perhaps being the biggest let down of all down.
Peter Greens FM was a better incarnation of the band.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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ANDREW
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 05:45 |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 06:57 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Gary the Ghoul
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 07:02 |
i luv fleetwood mac,from all stages
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chopper
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 07:38 |
Thyme Traveler wrote:
I used to think I was the only one who couldn't stand Fleetwood Mac. I basically kept it to myself until I met others who felt the same way I did... that Fleetwood Mac was the most overated band of the 70's... no melody, so-so musicianship, and the painfully terrible voice of Stevie Nicks.
Does anyone out there actually like Fleetwood Mac ? Or are they just lieing because it seems like liking them was the thing to do ?
Somebody has to like them I guess- they did sell all those records (or perhaps 8 tracks).
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Personally I love Stevie Nick's voice, especially on tracks like "Storms". I also prefer Tusk to Rumours.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 07:57 |
chopper wrote:
Thyme Traveler wrote:
I used to think I was the only one who couldn't stand Fleetwood Mac. I basically kept it to myself until I met others who felt the same way I did... that Fleetwood Mac was the most overated band of the 70's... no melody, so-so musicianship, and the painfully terrible voice of Stevie Nicks.
Does anyone out there actually like Fleetwood Mac ? Or are they just lieing because it seems like liking them was the thing to do ?
Somebody has to like them I guess- they did sell all those records (or perhaps 8 tracks).
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Personally I love Stevie Nick's voice, especially on tracks like "Storms". I also prefer Tusk to Rumours.
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Tusk is a very good album, and probably the only time the post-Green Mac ever really tried to do something daring. Didn't sell all that well, but there were some very interesting songs. I have a cassette version of a Tusk 'remake' by Camper Van Beethoven. They actually re-did the whole album themselves - have no idea why, but it's pretty funny.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 08:21 |
Kotro wrote:
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac is the best blues band in the world ever. Along with Ten Years After. |
TYA only real blues album is their self titled first album, and that at best is a second order British blues boom record*, IMHO. The original LP Undead is a classic of early jazz-rock - allowed TYA to appear with Woody Herman at one of the Newport Jazz festival - pity about the second rate blues fillers inserted in the remastered CD version, diluting some great jazz-blues jams. Stonedhenge is their psychedelic and experimental (nae progressive experimental) album. Ssshhhh, Cricklewood Green etc, are their rock blues period, and live they had gone technoflash and so lost it with a lot of discerning British fans. I saw Alvin Lee 18 months ago touring with Tony McPhee and Edgar Winter, and now he does good blues.
*Other blues bands of the period ranking in the first division: Chicken Shack, the one man band who ended up with a Crimson rhythm section Duster Bennett, Ainsley Dunbar's Retaliation, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Cream, Keef Hartley Band, Savoy Brown (esp with Chris Youlden doing the vocals), early Groundhogs, Jo Anne Kelly and does anybody remember the humour of The Spirit Of John Morgan (their show stopper was Yorkshire Blues, with a fantastic piano accordion solo in it), and still greatly enjoy the odd straight blues heard on Colosseum albums and on Jeff Beck's Truth album. And not forgetting America's Canned Heat, Paul Butterfield, Mike Bloomfield/Nick Gravenites and Harvey Mandel (did his Get Off In Chicago ever get a CD release?).
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Thyme Traveler
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 08:35 |
Blacksword wrote:
I also dont think the 'Rumours' album really deserves all the praise and &rse licking it's enjoyed from rock journos over the years. It's full of incomplete sounding ideas, 'The Chain' perhaps being the biggest let down of all down.
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Maybe that's it. Their songs sound like good ideas which were never developed fully.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 10:01 |
Excellent band. Oh well is an absolute masterpiece, tracks like
Albatross, Need your love so bad, Rhiannon and Sara are great songs.
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Chicapah
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Posted: February 28 2006 at 12:09 |
My favorite is their Kiln House album. Every track finds a wonderful groove.
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rupert
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Posted: March 01 2006 at 13:38 |
Well... Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac made Blues-music quite more enjoyable to me than it was before... "Love that burns", "The Green Mahalishi" and especially the album "Then play on" ( still waiting for a proper remaster-edition, the original cd sounds TERRIBLE ! ).
What happened after Green left the band wasn't really making me happy until Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined the remaining three... "Fleetwood Mac ( aka "Mondy Morning" )", "Rumours" and "Tusk" are great albums one and all and I love 'em. "Fleetwood Mac Live" as well as "Mirage" weren't living up to them at all, but "Tango in the Night" did, though this was a strange one, cause it was Stevie Nicks delivering the flaws whilest Buckingham/McVie saved the album ( on "Mirage" it was the other way round ). Afterwards... well... I really like "Behind the Mask" and, of course, "The Dance", but it's obvious they could not come up with the same creativity and subtle power anymore... I really love their songs with Stevie Nicks, Lindsay Buckingham and Christine McVie singin' and there's nothing compareable to them singing TOGETHER.
You can forget "Time", though...
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salmacis
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 15:42 |
Dick Heath wrote:
Kotro wrote:
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac is the best blues band in the world ever. Along with Ten Years After. |
TYA only real blues album is their self titled first album, and that at best is a second order British blues boom record*, IMHO. The original LP Undead is a classic of early jazz-rock - allowed TYA to appear with Woody Herman at one of the Newport Jazz festival - pity about the second rate blues fillers inserted in the remastered CD version, diluting some great jazz-blues jams. Stonedhenge is their psychedelic and experimental (nae progressive experimental) album. Ssshhhh, Cricklewood Green etc, are their rock blues period, and live they had gone technoflash and so lost it with a lot of discerning British fans. I saw Alvin Lee 18 months ago touring with Tony McPhee and Edgar Winter, and now he does good blues.
*Other blues bands of the period ranking in the first division: Chicken Shack, the one man band who ended up with a Crimson rhythm section Duster Bennett, Ainsley Dunbar's Retaliation, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Cream, Keef Hartley Band, Savoy Brown (esp with Chris Youlden doing the vocals), early Groundhogs, Jo Anne Kelly and does anybody remember the humour of The Spirit Of John Morgan (their show stopper was Yorkshire Blues, with a fantastic piano accordion solo in it), and still greatly enjoy the odd straight blues heard on Colosseum albums and on Jeff Beck's Truth album. And not forgetting America's Canned Heat, Paul Butterfield, Mike Bloomfield/Nick Gravenites and Harvey Mandel (did his Get Off In Chicago ever get a CD release?).
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I believe that The Spirit Of John Morgan album is about to be re-released on Repertoire. One of those bands I have in mind especially is a new 3cd set by Chicken Shack which presents 'The Complete Blue Horizon Sessions', and a few weeks later a double CD from Sanctuary put out 'Poor Boy-The Deram Years', so wouldn't the band's complete studio output be on those 5 discs??
As for Fleetwood Mac, I'm also of the opinion they were the best blues rock band of the era, but as far as I'm concerned they never quite cut a coherent album to prove this; just several very good albums with some superb standouts (more often than not their own, especially Green's, compositions, rather than the blues covers) and the odd dull track. For their detractors, I believe a suitable tune would be the 80s novelty number 'I'd Rather Jack (Than Fleetwood Mac)'.
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