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Cygnus X-2 
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 Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:20 |
 stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:24 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:26 |
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Umm... if by crap you mean near-masterpiece, then of course.
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:35 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Umm... if by crap you mean near-masterpiece, then of course.
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Ya know, we've hijacked this thread beyond all reason.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:36 |
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Umm... if by crap you mean near-masterpiece, then of course.
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Ya know, we've hijacked this thread beyond all reason.
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Then there is only one thing to do:
Stand straight! Look me (as in this thread) in the eye and say goodbye!
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:39 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Umm... if by crap you mean near-masterpiece, then of course.
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Ya know, we've hijacked this thread beyond all reason.
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Then there is only one thing to do:
Stand straight! Look me (as in this thread) in the eye and say goodbye!
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How clever. Ok, I'm stopping now. 
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Progidal
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 04:09 |
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Umm... if by crap you mean near-masterpiece, then of course.
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Ya know, we've hijacked this thread beyond all reason.
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Then there is only one thing to do:
Stand straight! Look me (as in this thread) in the eye and say goodbye!
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How clever. Ok, I'm stopping now. |
can you stop quoting each other n stuff
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here i go 
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Ounamahl
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 05:02 |
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I love to play Tom Sawyer (Rush) with my e-drums :> 7/8
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 05:10 |
Frank Zappa, Soft Machine, Gryphon, Gentle Giant, Meshuggah, Henry Cow, Watchtower etc.
No, seriously, I agree on Primus.
Also, Genesis' time signatures is also pretty easy to play sometimes.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 05:16 |
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The only album of Khan, "Space Shanties", has odd time signatures galore. You can find anything from 3/4 to 13/8 on it.
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Hemispheres
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:23 |
i know these bands that use odd time signatures ive been listening to prog rock for 7 years  i just want something fairly simple to practice too.Suppers Ready apocalypse 9/8 is a very good choice and Eleven by primus as well thanks i just couldnt think i was also thinking of trying with some of that indie math rock because i dont know much about the genre but i hear its punk influenced so maybe that stuff would be easy as well
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Jools
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:38 |
Ounamahl wrote:
I love to play Tom Sawyer (Rush) with my e-drums :> 7/8 |
This is a great example of an odd signature thats really easy to follow, it only occurs just before and during the guitar solo and at the end, its just like alternating 4/4 3/4. The rest of the song is in 4/4 but even Neil Peart makes that sound interesting with lots of changing emphasis on the off beats.
Try Rush's Jacobs Ladder as well but this is more like alternating 6/8 7/8 making it 13/8 or something.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 21:12 |
Progidal wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Umm... if by crap you mean near-masterpiece, then of course.
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Ya know, we've hijacked this thread beyond all reason.
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Then there is only one thing to do:
Stand straight! Look me (as in this thread) in the eye and say goodbye!
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How clever. Ok, I'm stopping now.
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can you stop quoting each other n stuff
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Yes, we did.
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Petary791
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 22:12 |
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Tool, Dream Theater, King Crimson.
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Progidal
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Posted: March 07 2006 at 02:52 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Progidal wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Marillion is another band that used odd times. Songs like Lords of the Backstage and sections of Just For the Record are in 7/8, and the end of Easter and the beginning of That Time of the Night are in 5/4, for example. Usually, their odd times are pretty simple to play, so you probably wouldn't have a problem with playing Marillion stuff. |
I believe Lords of the Backstage is in 13/8.
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I've always counted it as 7/8.... hmmm... whatever. It's just one measure of 6/8 combined with one of 7/8.
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Well, If you want to break it down that way, I think it works better with the first measure being 7/8 and the second being 6/8. The accents make the difference.
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I was listening to it just about an hour ago, and I did notice something was off when I kept counting as 7/8 in the second measure. That accent does make the difference.
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Well, on 2nd thought, it doesn't, because it's not really an accent. An accent would only be an issue if it were 13/8, in which case we wouldn't even be talking about this! The 7/8-6/8 measure sequence just fits, reguardless of accent.
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Pretty much.
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You would agree with anything I say right now, right?
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Pretty much.
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So, Caress of Steel is a crap album, right?
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Umm... if by crap you mean near-masterpiece, then of course.
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Ya know, we've hijacked this thread beyond all reason.
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Then there is only one thing to do:
Stand straight! Look me (as in this thread) in the eye and say goodbye!
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How clever. Ok, I'm stopping now.
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can you stop quoting each other n stuff
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Yes, we did. |
ok edit: weiiiird - well it looks like i've entered the great beyond
Edited by Progidal
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here i go
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CandyAppleRed
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Posted: March 07 2006 at 04:47 |
Floyd's Money is a nice easy starter. It's another 7/8'er that it is really just alternating 4/4 3/4 in the verses.
It's easy to count it as a 1-2-3-4 1-2-3 over the bass riff.
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