NOFX - Decline

I think it's a good song, definitely. Very innovative in their genre. I don't consider it prog punk. It's not a progressive song, in my opinion...it's still great, though.

why not wrote: THats the best song NOFX have ever made. Well thats what i think. DO you agree? And the main question... Do you think this song could be considered prog punk?

Punk is the opposite of prog!!!

Moatilliatta wrote: NOFX was a very innovative punk band. The Decline is their pinnacle of their achievements. It's as progressive as punk music gets, or at least I haven't heard many other bands doing what they have done. The chord progressions are still pretty simple and theortetical elements (odd times, key changes, etc.) aren't often present, but they did pull off a well written, 18 minute punk song. I would probably still enjoy it if I listened to it today.

I agree. The Decline is closest NOFX or any other punk came to prog.  

Punk, in most cases, is garbage. I don't care for punk either, but I can give credit to a handful of punk bands who actually made some noteworthy music.

NOFX is not a prog band, obviously, but their work did make progress in their genre.

goose wrote: blazno wrote: The Decline is closest NOFX or any other punk came to prog.   Nope! It is a fun song, though.

What is then? I l used to listen to punk and didn't find anything "more prog", well maybe the Stranglers or Devo if you consider them to be punk. 

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ANDREW wrote: Punk is the opposite of prog!!!

Actually punk holds ALMOST the exact same mentality as prog (except
prog actually does it.)

1. Sell-outs. If a band signs to a major and becomes more commercial
sounding they "sell-out." In both prog and punk it's a BIG deal if a band
sells out to the media.

2. Commercialism. Both hands hate the music on the radio and do not
want to be played on the radio (especially NOFX, being offered a LARGE
sum of cash to play their music videos on MTV, but they refused the
money due to their bands pride in not commercializing.)

3. Non-Radio friendly songs. Just as prog bands write 20 minute long
songs punk bands write very short (a little less than a minute, under 3
minutes) songs that are definitely not "radio-friendly" length.

4. Lyrics about Peace. This is a big thing in the punk genre with bands
such as NOFX and many prog bands such as Genesis, Yes, ELP, Rush, ect.

The difference between prog and punk is that prog does what punk
wishes it did. Prog songs generally are not only non-radio friendly but
they are far too long and too strange to play on the radio. Punk fails to
achieve this because despite abnormally short songs, they CAN still be
played on the radio, though it's not favored by the stations. Punk and
Prog are "ANTI-Establishment" type genres IMO.

There are also many problems with punk, though I was just pointing out
similarities. A lot of punk is all about fasion and the "scene" as they call it.
There are also some violences in the "mosh pits" as they call them. I don't
know maybe I'm just rambling.

I enjoy The Decline very much, and it's hard to deny that the musicians in NOFX are talented. They understand how to put together music, and The Decline is proof.

el b? wrote: An 18 min punk song?!?!?!...so that?s what the spys use in tortures!!!!

el böthy wrote: An 18 min punk song?!?!?!...so that´s what the spys use in tortures!!!!