Progarchives.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Polls
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Planet x or Liquid tension???
  FAQ FAQ  Forum SearchSearch  Calendar   Register Register  Login Login

Planet x or Liquid tension???
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 5>
Poll Question: Both bands have...Dream Theater members (or ex)...which do you prefer?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
35 [30.17%]
81 [69.83%]
You can not vote in this poll

Author
Message
  Share Topic Share Topic  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
el böthy View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6337 		Post Options Post Options   Quote el böthy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Planet x or Liquid tension???
    Posted: March 12 2006 at 14:31
So? What´s it gonna be?


Edited by el böthy
"You want me to play what, Robert?"
Back to Top
Progarchives.com
Advertisement 		Sponsored links (registered users, log in to remove)
 
eugene View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Ukraine
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2701 		Post Options Post Options   Quote eugene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 14:56

I do not like Planet X. I heard all of their albums, I borrowed them all 3 or 4 times, trying to get in their music. Finally I am convinced there is nothing to get into. Simply nothing!

LTE - is just about perfect instrumental progressive project. Both albums are 5 stars IMO.

Thus not much hesitations when voting..
carefulwiththataxe
Back to Top
ANDREW View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 21 2005
Location: Italy
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3066 		Post Options Post Options   Quote ANDREW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:41
LTE
Back to Top
MikeEnRegalia View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17181 		Post Options Post Options   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:46
Originally posted by eugene

I do not like Planet X. I heard all of their albums, I borrowed them all 3 or 4 times, trying to get in their music. Finally I am convinced there is nothing to get into. Simply nothing!

LTE - is just about perfect instrumental progressive project. Both albums are 5 stars IMO.

Thus not much hesitations when voting..

Planet X - 0 stars, LTE - 5 stars ... is that what you're saying? 
Back to Top
TheProgtologist View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin

Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 27371 		Post Options Post Options   Quote TheProgtologist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:58
No contest....................LTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here to stay until Joe Cool raises it for a 2nd time...
Back to Top
Rising Force View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: January 09 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 439 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Rising Force Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 16:17
Planet X
Back to Top
eugene View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Ukraine
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2701 		Post Options Post Options   Quote eugene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 16:54
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

Originally posted by eugene

I do not like Planet X. I heard all of their albums, I borrowed them all 3 or 4 times, trying to get in their music. Finally I am convinced there is nothing to get into. Simply nothing!

LTE - is just about perfect instrumental progressive project. Both albums are 5 stars IMO.

Thus not much hesitations when voting..

Planet X - 0 stars, LTE - 5 stars ... is that what you're saying? 

no, not exactly

I would say, as they know how to play their instruments (do not know what though) 1 star for any of Planet X, except Black Utopia -  2 stars (there are some moments in this one).

And 5 stars for LTE.
carefulwiththataxe
Back to Top
MikeEnRegalia View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17181 		Post Options Post Options   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:20
Originally posted by eugene

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

Originally posted by eugene

I do not like Planet X. I heard all of their albums, I borrowed them all 3 or 4 times, trying to get in their music. Finally I am convinced there is nothing to get into. Simply nothing!

LTE - is just about perfect instrumental progressive project. Both albums are 5 stars IMO.

Thus not much hesitations when voting..

Planet X - 0 stars, LTE - 5 stars ... is that what you're saying? 

no, not exactly

I would say, as they know how to play their instruments (do not know what though) 1 star for any of Planet X, except Black Utopia -  2 stars (there are some moments in this one).

And 5 stars for LTE.

Black Utopia is not a Planet X album. Did you do your homeworks?
Back to Top
eugene View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Ukraine
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2701 		Post Options Post Options   Quote eugene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:30
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

Originally posted by eugene

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

Originally posted by eugene

I do not like Planet X. I heard all of their albums, I borrowed them all 3 or 4 times, trying to get in their music. Finally I am convinced there is nothing to get into. Simply nothing!

LTE - is just about perfect instrumental progressive project. Both albums are 5 stars IMO.

Thus not much hesitations when voting..

Planet X - 0 stars, LTE - 5 stars ... is that what you're saying? 

no, not exactly

I would say, as they know how to play their instruments (do not know what though) 1 star for any of Planet X, except Black Utopia -  2 stars (there are some moments in this one).

And 5 stars for LTE.

Black Utopia is not a Planet X album. Did you do your homeworks?

Oh, right, sh*t, my mistake. Frankly I can't see much difference between Derek's solo projects under his own name (well, "Mythology" is different) and his solo projects under Planet X name. Would you mind to tell me about some distinguishing features apart from name.

 
carefulwiththataxe
Back to Top
MikeEnRegalia View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17181 		Post Options Post Options   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:35
^ Planet X is more technical and abstract - basically because it's a joint effort of three artists (Donati, MacAlpine and Sherinian) to create really complex, jazz-influenced music. On Sherinian's solo albums you always get lots of influences from guest musicians, and they're generally more metal than jazz.
Back to Top
eugene View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Ukraine
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2701 		Post Options Post Options   Quote eugene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:41

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

^ Planet X is more technical and abstract - basically because it's a joint effort of three artists (Donati, MacAlpine and Sherinian) to create really complex, jazz-influenced music. On Sherinian's solo albums you always get lots of influences from guest musicians, and they're generally more metal than jazz.

OK, then, thanks.

Strange, I like complex music and I lke jazz-influenced music, but failed to find anything interesting in Planet X, inspite of various approaches to it.  Never mind though, I have plenty of great music to listen to, so I can easily leave Planets XYZ all alone.
carefulwiththataxe
Back to Top
MikeEnRegalia View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17181 		Post Options Post Options   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:45
Originally posted by eugene

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

^ Planet X is more technical and abstract - basically because it's a joint effort of three artists (Donati, MacAlpine and Sherinian) to create really complex, jazz-influenced music. On Sherinian's solo albums you always get lots of influences from guest musicians, and they're generally more metal than jazz.

OK, then, thanks.

Strange, I like complex music and I lke jazz-influenced music, but failed to find anything interesting in Planet X, inspite of various approaches to it.  Never mind though, I have plenty of great music to listen to, so I can easily leave Planets XYZ all alone.

It's a shame that so many people bash Planet X just because they find their music uninteresting. It should be obvious that they did not try to create a prog rock/metal album, or the most emotional album in the world. They tried to create a very complex, focused and abstract kind of music, and they succeeded brilliantly. I would say that the musicianship on MoonBabies is one level above that on the two LTE albums ... that does not imply that it is better, but it means something.
Back to Top
eugene View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Ukraine
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2701 		Post Options Post Options   Quote eugene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 17:53
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

Originally posted by eugene

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

^ Planet X is more technical and abstract - basically because it's a joint effort of three artists (Donati, MacAlpine and Sherinian) to create really complex, jazz-influenced music. On Sherinian's solo albums you always get lots of influences from guest musicians, and they're generally more metal than jazz.

OK, then, thanks.

Strange, I like complex music and I lke jazz-influenced music, but failed to find anything interesting in Planet X, inspite of various approaches to it.  Never mind though, I have plenty of great music to listen to, so I can easily leave Planets XYZ all alone.

It's a shame that so many people bash Planet X just because they find their music uninteresting. It should be obvious that they did not try to create a prog rock/metal album, or the most emotional album in the world. They tried to create a very complex, focused and abstract kind of music, and they succeeded brilliantly. I would say that the musicianship on MoonBabies is one level above that on the two LTE albums ... that does not imply that it is better, but it means something.

I am not sure if you assumption on what they tried or did not try to create is correct, and it does not matter what they tried. I can hear what they achieved, and I do not like it. Simple as that.

And, yes, I find their music absolutely uninteresting. 
carefulwiththataxe
Back to Top
King of Loss View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer


Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Watching You
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14218 		Post Options Post Options   Quote King of Loss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 18:12
I do not like the mindless technicality that is Planet X. A very poor project.


Zizou 1988-2006
Back to Top
MikeEnRegalia View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17181 		Post Options Post Options   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 18:20

LTE is not the best project ever ... just as Planet X is not the worst.
Back to Top
el böthy View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6337 		Post Options Post Options   Quote el böthy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:13
I have some songs from LTE...and yes they are over the top musicianship with virtuosism at 110%...but I can´t get to like them much...not even to hear more than two songs in a row...
I only heard one Planet x song (the one from this site) and...yes, it´s ok...but it does it even less than LTE for me...

Can anyone give an other good technical band?...Ah, and no Spiral Architect jejeje
For some reason I happen to like the idea of technical complex bands...yet I don´t like the bands I have heard ...is this strange?

Edited by el böthy
"You want me to play what, Robert?"
Back to Top
Hierophant View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: March 11 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 651 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Hierophant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:14
Planet X please

Maybe i'm a bit biased because i'm a drummer and the biggest virgil donati fan 
Back to Top
TheProgtologist View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin

Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 27371 		Post Options Post Options   Quote TheProgtologist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:19

Originally posted by el böthy

I have some songs from LTE...and yes they are over the top musicianship with virtuosism at 110%...but I can´t to like them much...not even to hear more than two songs in a row...
I only heard one Planet x song (the one from this site) and...yes, it´s ok...but it does it even less than LTE...

Can anyone give an other good technical band?...Ah, and no Spiral Architect jejeje
For some reason I happen to like the idea of technical complex bands...yet I don´t like the bands I have heard ...is this strange?

Spastic Ink

Here to stay until Joe Cool raises it for a 2nd time...
Back to Top
eugene View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Ukraine
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2701 		Post Options Post Options   Quote eugene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:32

Originally posted by el böthy

..Can anyone give an other good technical band?...Ah, and no Spiral Architect jejeje
For some reason I happen to like the idea of technical complex bands...yet I don´t like the bands I have heard ...is this strange?

I can recommend you to try following: 

Bozzio/Levin/Stevens

Spaced out

Talisma

Addison Project - one of my latest purchases - very jazzy (maybe too jazzy for me) but still very good!

 

 
carefulwiththataxe
Back to Top
eugene View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Ukraine
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2701 		Post Options Post Options   Quote eugene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:32
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia

LTE is not the best project ever ... just as Planet X is not the worst.

This is kinda objective statement, and no one in right mind would argue about that.

However any poll requires rather subjective personal opinions.

I just wonder what you voted for???  
carefulwiththataxe
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 5>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.69
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz

This page was generated in 0.204 seconds.