Extremely Patriotic Rock Stars

^ Sounds like someone needs a visit to the Ranting Thread! 

DeepPhreeze wrote: FragileDT wrote: DeepPhreeze wrote: Bruce Springsteen.      Patriotic in what way? I'm a moderately big Springsteen fan, but even someone that kind of knows Springsteen knows he's almost as left wing as you get. Him waving the flag during Born in the U.S.A is a mockery. What does him being a Leftist have to do with his patriotism?Just because his political views are at the other end of the spectrum he's 'mocking' the USA?I thought for sure people were smart enough to not make generalizations like that --- doesn't the fact that rich CEOs exploit this country's workers PROVE that being a 'flag-waving patriot' doesn't mean loving this nation?

Well lets see, the flag doesn't symbolize anything that a "leftwinger" would stand for. If you are a flag waving patriot, you will not hold Springsteen's views. He would not be waving the flag to represent pride for his country when he disagrees with most things that the government is doing, especially today. Look up the origin of why we created the flag and you will than know why a flag waving patriot would never be a left wing liberal (or at least in 99% of the cases.)
    

^^^ We have that distinction in the States too, for those who care about semantics.  Here is an approximate spectrum:

DeepPhreeze wrote: Bruce Springsteen.

Jon Schaffer from Iced Earth actually own a shop that sells items of a 'Patriotic' nature.  It's called the Spirit of '76, or something similar.

In England patriotism means having a stupid flag flying from your (foreign) car when the World Cup is on, but ignoring laws and being a dole blagger the rest of the time.  People are scared to be patriotic as you will probably be labelled racist, and apparently you aren't free to (dis)like who you want any more :)

DeepPhreeze wrote: Barla wrote: DeepPhreeze wrote: Bruce Springsteen.   Bruce Springsteen: "I WAS BORN IN THE U.S.A...."       No, I meant all the political causes he's spearheaded, and his voting record (he's voted in almost every election since 1978), he's got guitars painted like the flag, and his van is red white & blue.Also, Billy Joel is largely patriotic, even though he likes to point out the tragic events that have happened in/to this country.

I don't think Springsteen has guitars painted like the flag. He almost always is playing his wood colored Fender Telecaster if not an acoustic. Not sure about his van though.
    
    

Edited by FragileDT - May 20 2006 at 19:31

FragileDT wrote: Atkingani wrote: I don't know why a left-winger cannot be honestly and consciously patriotic?   I said "patriotic" instead of "nationalist" (at least in my native language we had distinction between both words).   BTW, some Brazilians stars considered as being in the left had shown to be patriotic - real patriotism includes a great dose of criticism, questioning and complaining... and why not? A real Motherland shall be fair to all her children.      Absolutely! The real patriots should always be questioning and trying to self improve the country. But people have different ideas of what a real patriot is.

ClemofNazareth wrote: Atkingani wrote: I said "patriotic" instead of "nationalist" (at least in my native language we had distinction between both words We make a distinction too - that's why we have two different words.

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Zakk Wylde is so patriotic that if he's not careful he'll soon disappear up his own arse! Really he should have gone to fight in Iraq.