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    Posted: May 24 2006 at 09:15
Hi guys,
I'm new here, and I must say this place is a real inspiration for me. Thanks to everybody

So, I've just bought Paatos - Kallocain, and I'm glad I've found this group I reckon from Sweden.
They remind me a sort of Chroma Key. Perhaps they're not what can be called or labelled "prog" group, but to me their music is very both original and melancholic, which is something in the standard prog community really needs at the moment. I'm sick of these supposed prog bands which play as DT, latest version. Give me a break plaese. Where is that originality that was the benchmark and keystone of the 70's?

I've read some posts on DT: do you think that playing prog music automatically means odd rhythms and fast major scales? This is just "evolved" heavy metal, but of course this is my personal opinion, and I'm ready to receive any criticism on that.

Again, thanks for the incredible source of info you provide

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 11:10
Great band. It doesn't hurt that the bass player is one of the biggest promotors of Prog in Sweden.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 11:14
Incredible band, and you are right their music is 100 times more important than DT'sWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 11:32
Agreed! One of my favorites from Sweden, although I've yet to hear their most recent effort.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 11:34
I've fallen in love with Patronella's voice Embarrassed

I only have Kollacain and I liked it alot. But as times pases, to my ears they become more and more poppish after each listen. I don't mind that really, but they sound more pop than prog to my ears. Still good though.

I'll try and get Time Loss since people praise it more than Kollacain.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 12:09
Their first debut was a good one, I really liked the follow-up too, and the newest is a huge disappointment. Overall a decent group, but there are better ones!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 13:29
I fully agree with you - but I'm all in all a prog lover who enjoys genuine emotion, passion and melancholy a lot more than off-time scales, guitar shredding and other so-called 'awesome musicianship' anyway... Wink 
 
"Timeloss" and "Kallocain" are must-haves! I'm sorry to say that indeed, their latest "Silence of Another Kind", turned out to be a disappointment to me as well.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 13:35
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Great band. It doesn't hurt that the bass player is one of the biggest promotors of Prog in Sweden.
 
Dimle's main claim to fame would be that he was a member of Landberk
 
Try Timeloss (the debut where Reine Fiske - guitarist of Landberk was also in the group) as it sounds some much more inspired than Kallocain (which I must say i found plain boring)
 
Their third album just got released and is the same vein than Kallocain, but livelier
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 14:22
Originally posted by Antennas Antennas wrote:

 
"Timeloss" and "Kallocain" are must-haves! I'm sorry to say that indeed, their latest "Silence of Another Kind", turned out to be a disappointment to me as well.


I really like Paatos as well. Can you explain why their last album is a disappointment. I haven't heard it yet. If it's #*%& I'll give it a miss.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 15:59
Timeloss is awesome, but IMHO the latter two, Kallocain and Silence of Another Kind, have been major disappointments. Timeloss had some really interesting experiments and the band let loose a little more; the newer albums never stretch out as much and just kind of wallow in mid-tempo melancholy. It's evident that Huxflux Nettermalm is a freakin' awesome drummer, but he doesn't really do much of interest except on Timeloss.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 17:44
I wish you and Paatos all the happyness in the world
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 17:50
Timeloss is excellent. Kallocian doesn't appeal to me as much, but is still very good. I've yet to hear any new material, but unfortunately it's been given poor reviews thusfar; so I don't think I'm going to buy it when it comes out. If I can hear it elsewhere, or at least some clips, I will be glad to give it a shot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 18:20
Originally posted by Dr. Occulator Dr. Occulator wrote:

Originally posted by Antennas Antennas wrote:

 
"Timeloss" and "Kallocain" are must-haves! I'm sorry to say that indeed, their latest "Silence of Another Kind", turned out to be a disappointment to me as well.


I really like Paatos as well. Can you explain why their last album is a disappointment. I haven't heard it yet. If it's #*%& I'll give it a miss.
 
Well I wouldn't say their latest CD is indeed #*%&... Wink but I consider their earlier works a lot more 'special', don't really know how to describe it properly. Their latest isn't bad, but rather more 'heard-it-before'-like - and better.
If you like Timeloss and Kallocain very much, you may perhaps enjoy Silence as well, so I'd surely check it out if I were you Wink. After all, it's all a matter of personal taste.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 18:39
Thanks Antennas. I'll play it by ear (pun intended)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 19:24

just listened to the PA mp3 of Paatos

really good I must say, pretty unique sound
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 21:58
Originally posted by Quiet Drops Quiet Drops wrote:

Incredible band, and you are right their music is 100 times more important than DT'sWink


It never ceases to amaze me that in a thread solely dedicated to an art rock band from Sweden, someone will find a way to bash Dream Theater.

They're different bands. Different styles. How can you compare them? Well, some people can find a way.Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 22:13
Timeloss had a 70's vibe to it with more instrumentation and musicians, and can actually be considered prog. Like Porcupine Tree, they moved away from that older prog influence, and more towards the melancholic post rock genre(Radiohead). The instrumentation is good on Kallocain, but kind of lacking in range and diversity. Not a bad album, but probably shouldn't be considered prog.
What is prog rock ?

It is music that does progress. Progressive music takes a riff, turns it inside out, plays it upside down and the other way around, and explores its potential.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2006 at 23:03
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Dimle's main claim to fame would be that he was a member of Landberk

No, not really. His main claim to fame is that he runs Mellotronen, one of the world's best Prog stores and a record company that re-releases lost Prog classics (I'm still eagerly awaiting the Friendship Time album).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2006 at 02:46
Great find for sure...prog archives proves it's point! Enjoy.......................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2006 at 06:45
Jeje, I've also been introduced to many unique bands (Marillion) through progarchives...I've actually never heard Paatos, I'm going to go listen to some of their samples, you might have just introduced me into a new amazing band...let's see...
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