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    Posted: December 07 2004 at 10:27

As anybody who has been in a band will know, the people who play in it often get chosen by their availability. How many times have we heard the phrase in an interview 'Well, we didn't have a bass player, so I switched to bass from guitar and the rest is history'?

Moreover, in my experience the hardest position to fill in a band is always the drummer. Sure you can find a guy/girl who WANTS to play drums but they either have no drum kit/car or they are just (for the want of a better word) plain sh*t.

Guitarists are always easy to find and sometimes hard to get rid of . However if you find a good drummer, then you have struck gold. What is it about the drum kit that attracts the flakes and stops the rest of us from taking it up?



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Couldn't agree with you more Sigod.
We had to share our drummer with another band.Sometimes we managed to wrestle him away for a couple of months at a time but all the while I was living on tenterhooks,
wondering whether he was going to jump ship.Carrying his stands was a perverse pleasure.Thankfully (or not)as the case may be,the band broke-up before he had the chance to leave.

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Drummers are kinda like women...can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em, and a lot of people get outraged if you try to replace one with an electronic device.
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Oh I hate drummers  They tick me off. They have created a lot of problems with the bands I've been in, be it one thing or another. I had a drummer who could play "La Villa Strangiato","Cygnus X-1" and lots of other great rush songs but he always refused to play them with us
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Drummers are just guys that hang around with musicians...
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Drummers are just guys that hang         &n bsp; 
around deleted your PM by mistake was it something      
important or just your usual drivel with musicians...

     
             
                         
   
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Originally posted by Wizard/TRueStar Wizard/TRueStar wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


Drummers are just guys that hang         &n bsp; 
around deleted your PM by mistake was it something       
important or just your usual drivel with musicians...

      
               
                          
   

Don't know why it did that.   ?????
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Its probably a problem of logistics - If you have a guitar or bass guitar, these can be propped up in the corner of the room by their amp (Marshall or Trace Elliot, of course!) - as soon as the muse strikes, up it comes, and you're playing; to an extent, it is the same with keyboards (even my Hammond set up).

With a drum kit, you are talking about a large amount of space needed, and the difficulty of not having volume controls.....

Given the above then, far fewer people actually take up drums/percussion, hence the lack of drummers when you need one.

And now the drummer jokes...

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It's all about getting the chicks. Guitarists get women, vocalists get women. Drummers.....well, not so much.
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Originally posted by StarvingArtyst StarvingArtyst wrote:

It's all about getting the chicks. Guitarists get women, vocalists get women. Drummers.....well, not so much.

Okay, bit of an admission here, I've played both guitar and drums (although not at the same time ) in prog and non-prog bands for about a decade. It can be a real pain having to cart all the drums around (first to arrive, last to leave is the old joke) but let me tell you...I get more female attention as a drummer than I ever do as a guitarist/singer.

Maybe it's something about the physicality of playing or the ablitity to pound out a rhythm that attracts 'em . British women, who knows??

 

 



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Another reason that they are so rare is their tendancy to spontainiously combust!

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:


Another reason that they are so rare is their tendancy to spontainiously combust!

And don't forget old Stumpy Peeps, who died in a bizzare gardening accident.

 
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...and Eric "Stumpy Joe" Childs, whose cause of death was (officially) choking on vomit.

Off the record, of course, it's not clear whose vomit it was...
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Spinal Tap A to Zed

Eric ChildsChilds, Eric "Stumpy Joe" (1945-1974): Former Wool Cave drummer became Tap’s second drummer in 1969 after John "Stumpy" Pepys died in a bizarre gardening accident. Derek remembers Childs as having "big hands, big feet, big heart. Small lips. Thin hair. Big ears. That really says it all." (IST) Childs would perform on four Tap albums before choking to death on someone else’s vomit in 1974. Who produced the vomit remains shrouded in mystery. Nigel: "You can’t really dust for vomit." Inexplicably, the band would later claim he died of a melanin overdose. (STR) And even later, when asked about the investigation into Childs' death, Derek reported: "Last we heard, they had conducted DNA tests on [the vomit]. The only results to get back to us was that, on closer analysis, it may not have been vomit." (PB) An early Tap session drummer, Childs played on "(Listen to the) Flower People" b/w "Rainy Day Sun," although he didn’t join the group officially until 1969.

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You know some one really died from choking on someone elses vomit:

Woman Chokes on Someone Else's Vomit

On 7 March 2002, the Saskatoon StarPhoenix in Saskatchewan, Canada, citing witnesses inside the Pine Grove Correctional Centre, reported that some female ex-heroin addicts so desperately crave methadone that they routinely consume the fresh vomit of fellow inmates currently on methadone treatment because enough is still present in the regurgitation. The newspaper uncovered the practice while investigating the death of an inmate. Said a source, "The whole building knows (that the inmate choked on vomit). That's how she died." —from News of the Weird, compiled by Chuck Shepherd
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^ that may be the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. And I listen to talk radio!
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^ HA! LOL 

 Ermm Next time I o'erindulge, and puke beer through my nose (very, very, VERY rare occurance, these last 15 or so years, thank cod!), I'll save it in a bucket for all you British "real ale" drinkers, and fans of bottle-conditioned brews....Wink

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Peter Beer? Hahahhahahahahhahahhaa. Sorry. Bwhahahahhahahahahhahahaaa
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Life imitating art. Remember Jeff Porcaro of Toto who really DID die in a bizzare gardening accident. Allergic reaction to some weed killer I'm told. Poor bastard.

  

 
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why are good drummers so rare?

Because they can never remember the way to the rehearsal room, or indeed, occasionally the name of the band they are in.

Actually, I had the good fortune to play with a number of excellent drummers, two of whom could actually write!!!! I consider myself blessed
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