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fogwalker
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Topic: Providence v Moonchild Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:23 |
They're long! they're noodly! They're b.... (oops nearly said the b word there). So come on, which KC noodlethon are you most likely to skip? I've gone for Moonchild but it's a close call.....
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Phil
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:30 |
They are noodley but they are very different - Moonchild just peters out, a studio track in which by their own admission they were filling time; Providence is an improvisation (the full version of which can be heard on the box set "The Great Deceiver"), it's the type of thing the 73/74 line up were known for. Providence builds to a great climax (though on the full length track it goes off the boil a bit in the final couple of minutes). No contest for me - Moonchild is the track I'd skip; actually Providence is a favourite of mine!
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Ricochet
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:30 |
(excuse me!but Moonchild's a masterpiece.)
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Phil
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:34 |
Ricochet wrote:
(excuse me!but Moonchild's a masterpiece.)
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I don't mean to be rude, it starts so well but then..........
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:36 |
Your poll is not well set-up!!!! The question is ambiguous.
I meant to cvote for Moonchild being miles better than providence, partly because iot has a superb start then skips into a "noodleathon"
Instead, now Moonchild is losing its battle because I wrongly voted that I would skip it.
Edited by Sean Trane - June 13 2006 at 10:38
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Ricochet
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:36 |
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 10:36 |
None of them.
Both albums require uninterrupted listening.
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FragileDT
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 11:02 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Your poll is not well set-up!!!! The question is ambiguous.
I meant to cvote for Moonchild being miles better than providence, partly because iot has a superb start then skips into a "noodleathon"
Instead, now Moonchild is losing its battle because I wrongly voted that I would skip it.[IMG]height=17 alt=Angry src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>[IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> | Same thing just happened to me.
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 11:16 |
I don't skip either, as they are necessary to the albums to which they belong. However, I prefer "Moonchild" to "Providence" because of the vocal part, which is hauntingly beautiful.
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Tasartir
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:21 |
I'd skip Providence any day, any time! TOO BAD, it ruins the album for me.
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dagrush
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:21 |
I don't skip either, as they (and all albums) require straight through listening. As for which is better... Moonchild's first half, but Providence's second half. Probably Providence overall.
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The Wizard
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:23 |
Providence, I enjoy that one.
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el böthy
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:25 |
Phil wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
(excuse me!but Moonchild's a masterpiece.)
| I don't mean to be rude, it starts so well but then.......... | Well yes, but the actual song is great! And...you have to admit, even if you dont like it, thouse proto ambient sounds were really a very unique thing back in 69... I never skip the song in Moonchild, sometimes I do play next around the 5th minute... but normally I hear the whole thing. And Providence is an improv masterpiece
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:32 |
most likely? hahah..
skip it everytime.
Moonchild... one of the rare cases one song can bring an otherwise deserving 5 star album down a notch.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Masque
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:04 |
Both are pretty bad ... How anybody could actually regard either as a masterpiece is beyond me ? When Moonchild starts it has the potential of being a great song then it bombs and bombs out badly, as for providence it spoils what could have been or perhaps still is the best KC album. Some call music like these two songs art but most just call it crap
Edited by Masque - June 13 2006 at 13:08
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Zargus
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:06 |
Nonen of em, both are great!
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:09 |
Moonchilid never! But Providence I can skip it. But not Moonchild
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:16 |
Masque wrote:
Both are pretty bad ... How anybody could actually regard either as a masterpiece is beyond me ? When
Moonchild starts it has the potential of being a great song then it
bombs and bombs out badly, as for providence it spoils what could have
been or perhaps still is the best KC album.
Some call music like these two songs art but most just call it crap
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others still (including myself) call it 'failed art'. We
all love prog for the daring nature of the music and the challenge of
understanding it. Sometimes it works... sometimes it
doesn't.... of course some people consider the work of an artist
throwing crap (literally) at a canvas, art. and others call
it for what they see it as.... crap hahahha. Obviously it's all
subjective and King Crimson excelled in challenging the listener.
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BebieM
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:45 |
FragileDT wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Your poll is not well set-up!!!! The question is ambiguous.
I meant to cvote for Moonchild being miles better than
providence, partly because iot has a superb start then skips into a
"noodleathon"
Instead, now Moonchild is losing its battle because I wrongly
voted that I would skip it.[IMG]height=17 alt=Angry
src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" width=17
align=absMiddle>[IMG]height=17 alt=Wink
src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17
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Same thing just happened to me. |
and me ....
I agree with Moonchild being a masterpiece, it's wonderful.
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: June 13 2006 at 16:59 |
Both!
Utter crap.
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